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>From - Sun Jan 04 17:04:48 1998
From: merlejr@juno.com
Subject: Books for sale

The following books are for sale:

"MAST Family History" by C.Z. Mast, a 1989 reprint of 1911 publication
hardcover, 825 pages
$35.00

"Early Amish Land Grants in Berks County, Pennsylvania", pub.1990 by
Pequea Bruderschaft Library
approx. 11"x14", 44pages of maps and info on 1700s Amish settlers in
Berks Co, PA
$20.00
includes data on the following YODERs - Christian Yoder (YR2), Christian
Yoder(YR23), Christian Yoder (YR12), Jacob Yoder (YR14), John Yoder
(YR17)

I got extra copies of these two books for Christmas (had them on my
Christmas wish list, but went and bought them at Thanksgiving too when I
went home to PA). These copies are brand new.

If you are interested please respond immediately, as if I get no interest
in them by Friday Jan 2nd I will try to exchange them with the Masthof
Bookstore where they were purchased. I will pay shipping myself (USPS),
so you are getting a deal (no shipping or tax)- just thought someone
could benefit from my mistake.

Please respond by email: merlejr@juno.com or by phone if you want a
quicker response (781-255-9979)(please no calls after 8:00PM EST)

Later,
Merle Yoder, Jr.

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>From - Sun Jan 04 17:04:50 1998
From: Peg & Owen Yoder <glencrln@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Books for sale

Would love to buy copy of "Early Amish Land Grants in Berks County, PA".

Owen Yoder
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>From - Sun Jan 04 17:04:51 1998
From: Ggyphotog <Ggyphotog@aol.com>
Subject: Merle Yoder, JR

I would like to have one of the land books.

Please send me your address so I can send you a check for $23. to cover cost
of mailing.

UPS only comes to Hawaii by air--and that's too expensive--the $3. covers
Priority Mail shipping--2# for $3.

Gordon Yoder
`3875 L. Hanoapiilani B395
Lahaina, HI 96761

I sent emails to merlejr and merlejn====boyh sere returned --that;s why I am
using the rootsweb to get to you

Thanx

Gordon

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>From - Sun Jan 04 17:04:53 1998
From: merlejr@juno.com
Subject: Re: Books for sale

A note to all:

The following book which I offered for sale yesterday has been sold:
"Early Amish Land Grants in Berks County, Pennsylvania", pub.1990 by
Pequea Bruderschaft Library $20.00

As I got several requests for this book, I will note that this book is
available from the Masthof Bookstore in Morgantown, PA - Their phone is
610-286-0258. This book is $20 plus $3 shipping (and PA tax if
applicable).
I highly recommend this bookstore for anyone with Amish or Mennonite
ancestry. They have an annual catalog and periodic suppliments
available.

The following book is still available:
"MAST Family History" by C.Z. Mast, a 1989 reprint of 1911 publication
hardcover, 825 pages
$35.00

Later,
Merle Yoder, Jr.
Norwood, MA
merlejr@juno.com
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>From - Sun Jan 04 17:05:26 1998
From: dkauffma@planet.eon.net
Subject: Kauffman-book wanted/trade

Wanted: 1 copy of the following book (new or used):

****************************
TITLE: Christian Kauffman, his descendants and his people /
AUTHOR(S): Kauffman, S. Duane (Stanley Duane), 1936- (Main)
PUBLISHED: Baltimore (111 Water St., Baltimore, MD 21202) : Gateway Press
; Perkasie, PA (1411 Schwenkmill Rd., Perkasie, PA 18944) : book orders
to S.D. Kauffman, 1980.
DESCRIPTION: v, 285 p. : ill., facsims., ports. ; 24 cm.
NOTES: Includes index.
SUBJECTS: Kauffman family.
LC CALL NO.: CS71.K211980
DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.2/0973 ED: 19
FORMAT: Book
LCCN: 80-84229
****************************

Will pay cash, or am offering the following in trade:

****************************
Guengerich, S.D., "Memorial Family History of Daniel Schoettler,
Christian Swartzendruber, and Jacob Kauffman", printed 1910 at Wellman,
Iowa

This little book is a mint condition, original edition (not the reprint
of 1977), dark green, hard cover, 119 pages, appears to never have been
used.
****************************
Please contact:
Don Kauffman -- email, dkauffma@planet.eon.net
or postal mail at:
3508-112 Street
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
T6J 1H9
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>From - Sun Jan 04 18:49:13 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Stutzman/Yoder Query

Thanks so much for creating this site! I have just started to research
the Emery and Yoder family trees and discovered my Grandfather, Rev.
Edwin Stanton Yoder on your website (YB13994), a Congregational minister
who was a son of Aaron (YB1399)and Fianna Crauthamel Yoder.
I was surprised to see the Yoder name traced back to Switzerland since my
father, Wallace R. Yoder, always told me that the four Yoder brothers
immigrated from Holland when the Dutch settled New Amsterdam! Does
anyone know if there is any truth to this claim?

Anna Belle Yoder Emery <annab@azstarnet.com>
Tucson, AZ USA - Thursday, January 01, 1998 at 19:22:03 (PST)
------------------------------------------------------
Dear Anna Belle,

I just checked through the more inclusive genealogies that I have at
hand, and the only Jacob B. Stutzman I found was in Desc. of Barbara
Hochstetler...he is family number 19579 and lived at Topeka, Ind at death
his children by wife Catherine Miller do not include a Milo.

Perhaps some of the members of the Yoder listserver may be able to help
you with this query...and perhaps you can give more clues about teh
location, etc???

Best regards,

Chris

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>From - Sun Jan 04 22:40:27 1998
From: shdenn@wwnet.com
Subject: Re:Yoder & Family Tree Maker.

Kim Toner wrote:

> I recently became intrigued by family history when my fiance obtained
> Family Tree Maker software. I am a great-great grandchild of Moses H.
> Yoder and Barbara Kauffman. I have gathered a lot of information from your
> web site and from the Moses H. Yoder family book. I was wondering if
> anyone else is using Family Tree Maker and if so, if I could exchange
> files?
>
> Kimberly Toner
> Grand Valley State University
> Allendale, Michigan
>
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Dear Kimberly,

I recieved your letter. It is interesting that you go to Grand Valley. My
husband Steve graduated from Grand Valley December 1981. I just became
familiar with the Yoder website a few months ago. I have obtained a good deal
of information from it. I am descended from Melchoir Yoder. I've been using
family tree maker for about 6 months.
I've found it to be a good program. However, I'm not willing to buy into the
xtra purchase of additional discs that may or may not be of use. I've
submitted my info to the Yoder website. I'm not sure if its been posted yet.
I assume that is where you got my e-mail address. If I can be of help just
let me know. I'm more than happy to share what ever info is useful to you.
I'm unsure how to send you the files you want by e-mail. I would probably
find it easier just to print them up and snail mail them to you. Just let me
know how I can help

Yvonne Denn

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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:09 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Yoder Data On Disk

Any of you who may have ordered the set of Yoder Data on Disk,
please check file "YR14.doc" ---if you can't read it, let me know, and
I'll email you a replacement.

Chris Yoder

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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:06 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Yoder Data On Disk

Any of you who may have ordered the set of Yoder Data on Disk,
please check file "YR14.doc" ---if you can't read it, let me know, and
I'll email you a replacement.

Chris Yoder
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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:13 1998
From: Karen Lint <jlint@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

Kim Toner wrote:
>
> I recently became intrigued by family history when my fiance obtained
> Family Tree Maker software. I am a great-great grandchild of Moses H.
> Yoder and Barbara Kauffman. I have gathered a lot of information from your
> web site and from the Moses H. Yoder family book. I was wondering if
> anyone else is using Family Tree Maker and if so, if I could exchange
> files?
>
> Kimberly Toner
> Grand Valley State University
> Allendale, Michigan
>

Hi Kinberly,

I was looking in my files to see if I had your Moses H. Yoder or Barbara
Kauffman. I have both. Barbara was the sister of my gg grandfather,
John j. Kauffman born in 1850 who married Magdalena Zook. Aside from
the obvious other relationships, I am also related to you on Moses'
side, since he is YR25149, and I am descended from YR252, and from
Moses' mother, Esther Hertzler HZ57, (I am descended from HZ1), his
paternal grandmother, Barbara Rickenbach RB31 (I am descended from RB1,
etc.

I do have Family Tree Maker. I would love to share files.

Karen Lint
jlint@erols.com

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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:16 1998
From: danakaye@webtv.net (kaye osterman)
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

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I am new to this list but these names are all familiar. I am descended
(5th ggrandmother) from Barbara Rickenbach b.1755 inLancaster Co. PA and
John Yoder b.1754 in Berks Co. Pa, through their daughter Magdelena
Yoder m. to Christian King. You seem to be descended from Magdelenas
brother Christian m. to Esther Hertzler. Is this correct?(You didn't
give any dates) Do youHave any marriage or death dates or places for
Barbara Rickenbach or John Yoder? I also need birth and death dates for
Magdelena. Do you go back any furthur? I have John Yoder b.1732 in
Europe and Anna Mast b.1734 in Europe as Johns parents , and John
Rickenbach b.1728 in Europe and Anna _____? as Barbaras' parents? Do you
have any more information on them? This is really exciting to make a
possible connection so soon. Thank you ! Kaye(Ayler)
Osterman Wichita,KS

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Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:36:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Lint <jlint@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

Hi Kinberly,

I do have Family Tree Maker. I would love to share files.

Karen Lint
jlint@erols.com

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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:37 1998
From: mburley <mburley@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: YODER-D and Family Tree Maker

Yvonne Denn wrote:

>I've been using family tree maker for about 6 months. I've found it to >be a good program. However, I'm
not willing to buy into the xtra >purchase of additional discs that may or may not be of use.

FTM can create a "Family Finder Report", which searches the family
finder index for several, or all your relatives at once. Then a report
is generated which shows potential matches on the CD's Broderbund sells.
This feature can be found under the "View" menu. Broderbund has a 90 day
guarantee on all their products. If you don't like it or want it,
they'll refund your money! I think some of the CD's are on the expensive
side but if the info you need is there, it's probably worth it.

Mike Burley

Researching Conrad, Ernst, Headings, Hooley, Hostetler, King, Liechty,
Mast, Miller, Plank, Roth, Troyer, Wenger, Yoder, Zook and all their
various spellings.
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>From - Mon Jan 05 17:51:37 1998
From: ekjohnson@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Yoder, Yost

Have you-all read The Novel by James A Michener? Main character: Lukas
Yoder, fictional, I assume, pub 1991.

p16-17-- In 1677, the year Yost Yoder was released from prison with
scars from torture marking his face, the Word of God seemed to arrive
in our Palatine valleys in the persoin of a tall Englishman of gentle
manner . . . Wilhelm Penn . .
. . .About the first thing Yost Yoder and Uriah Zollicoffer did when
they reached our valley in 1797 was to select a site for their church
in the wilderness . . .

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>From - Tue Jan 06 01:22:34 1998
From: dkauffma@planet.eon.net
Subject: Re: Yoder, Yost

>Have you-all read The Novel by James A Michener? Main character: Lukas
>Yoder, fictional, I assume, pub 1991.

I read this book a couple of years ago - assumed that it was fiction -
assumed that Michener did what a lot of writers and movie producers like
to do these days, set their stories against an Amish background -- liked
the book because of the look into how novels get published and some of
the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on, as well as one view of early
days in PA -- like all James Michener books -- would give my eye teeth to
be able to write my family history book in Michener style, incredible
detail in a very engaging novel format.

Like you I ask, was Lukas Yoder fictional?

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>From - Tue Jan 06 06:28:35 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Yoder, Yost

dkauffma@planet.eon.net wrote:
>
> >Have you-all read The Novel by James A Michener? Main character: Lukas
> >Yoder, fictional, I assume, pub 1991.
>
> I read this book a couple of years ago - assumed that it was fiction -
> assumed that Michener did what a lot of writers and movie producers like
> to do these days, set their stories against an Amish background -- liked
> the book because of the look into how novels get published and some of
> the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on, as well as one view of early
> days in PA -- like all James Michener books -- would give my eye teeth to
> be able to write my family history book in Michener style, incredible
> detail in a very engaging novel format.
>
> Like you I ask, was Lukas Yoder fictional?

> ref:
>p16-17-- In 1677, the year Yost Yoder was released from prison with
>scars from torture marking his face, the Word of God seemed to arrive
>in our Palatine valleys in the persoin of a tall Englishman of gentle
>manner . . . Wilhelm Penn . .
>. . .About the first thing Yost Yoder and Uriah Zollicoffer did when
>they reached our valley in 1797 was to select a site for their church
>in the wilderness . . .

Just a general comment....This sems to me to be clearly an amalgam by the author of
partial historical facts and timeframes...He picked Yost Yoder perhaps because of his
familiarity with the surname as a prime represenative of Palatinate settlemnt...here is
my reasoning...I've never seen Lukas/Lucas as a first name in the Yoder clan, 1677 is a
bit early/late for some of the prime religious persecutions in Switzerland (the
Anabaptist moves from Steffisburg appear about 1692 onward) and earlier than the know
Joder movement into the Palatinate, the 1797 date of Pa. settlement was wrong by almost
90 years on the first Yoder arrival in Berks, the name Uriah Zollicoffer seems totally
unfamiliar (either first or second name)...so I've assume right along that Michener's
character was an interesting occurrence but nothing worth reading anything into.... it
just doesn't click with what's known in many ways.--Chris Yoder

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>From - Tue Jan 06 01:22:35 1998
From: Yoduman <Yoduman@aol.com>
Subject: The movie "For Richer or Poorer"

Not a great movie, but very cute if you're a Yoder. Tim Allen and Kirstey
Alley hideout in an Amish community and pass themselves off as visiting
cousins Jacob and Emma Yoder. They, of course, are staying at the Yoder farm
complete with grandma and grandpa Yoder and a whole town of Yoders.

It'll never win an academy award, but us Yoder's are getting a kick out of it!

Dave Yoder
South Bend, IN

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>From - Mon Jan 05 18:42:16 1998
From: dkauffma@planet.eon.net

>Yvonne Denn wrote:
>
>>I've been using family tree maker for about 6 months. I've found it to >be a
>good program. However, I'm not willing to buy into the xtra >purchase of
>additional discs that may or may not be of use.

and Mike Burkey answered:

>FTM can create a "Family Finder Report", which searches the family
>finder index for several, or all your relatives at once. Then a report
>is generated which shows potential matches on the CD's Broderbund sells.
>This feature can be found under the "View" menu. Broderbund has a 90 day
>guarantee on all their products. If you don't like it or want it,
>they'll refund your money! I think some of the CD's are on the expensive
>side but if the info you need is there, it's probably worth it.
>
>Mike Burley

This raises some questions which have been churning in the back of my
mind, namely:

How good is the information that is found on the CD's that the various
software makers are offering? Is it from primary sources, or just a
compilation of a number of gedcoms submitted by various people? If it is
from gedcoms, do these companies make any effort to check for accuracy,
etc.? Family history, to a large software company, may be a sideline that
someone suggested would make the company a few bucks. Who is in charge of
quality control of the INFORMATION? I suspect a company's quarantee only
extends to the technical quality of the product delivered, not
necessarily to the quality of the information. We all know of the "family
history" books which are nothing more than a listing from telephone
directories of every one of a certain surname.

Has anyone found the father and grandfather of YR1 and YR2 on these
disks? --- along with good documentation?? <grin>

Part of the reason these questions arise is that I have been downloading
gedcoms from GenServ and Ancestry. When I check the information from some
of these gedcoms I find references to various CD-ROM collections such as
the one mentioned, and some of the information does not match well with
sources such as AAMG, or the other "classics" in our backgrounds. I am
not knocking GenServ, or similar organizations that are designed to help
people share their collections -- just asking the question about the
quality of the information on these CD-ROM disks.

Two interesting "sharing" web sites that you might look at if you want to
tap in to the collections that others have done are:

http://www.ancestry.com
http://www.genserv.com

Search their databases. Both have a "free" take-a-look feature and a
small fee if you want to really get involved.(Probably less than the cost
of CD-ROM disks). They are fun, and I have located a couple of good
contacts thru these places.
********************************************************************
Researching:
Kauffman, Stalter, Yoder, Swartzendruber, Stauffer, Roth
Don Kauffman --------------- dkauffma@planet.eon.net
Kauffman Homepage ---------- http://www.genealogy.org/~kauffman
*********************************************************************
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>From - Sun Jan 04 18:56:42 1998
From: Kim Toner <tonerk@stream.csis.gvsu.edu>
Subject: Unidentified subject!

I recently became intrigued by family history when my fiance obtained
Family Tree Maker software. I am a great-great grandchild of Moses H.
Yoder and Barbara Kauffman. I have gathered a lot of information from your
web site and from the Moses H. Yoder family book. I was wondering if
anyone else is using Family Tree Maker and if so, if I could exchange
files?

Kimberly Toner
Grand Valley State University
Allendale, Michigan

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>From - Tue Jan 06 17:49:15 1998
From: WStrip <WStrip@aol.com>
Subject: Re: CD quality and other sources

I have the Family Treemaker program with CD #'s 1-7 and CD #9. I have found
some very good information on my families on the CD's along with some
incorrect information. The information on the CD's are family history
research submitted by individuals and some of them have documented their
sources. I don't take any of the information as gospel but sometimes it does
point me in a direction to search that I had not known about before.
Unfortunately, none of my Yother's are on any of the CD's that I have. If any
of you should have the Family Tree Maker CD of land records for AR, AL, GA,
TN, etc., would you mind looking for Nellie Melinda Yother and see what County
she is in and let me know. I am sure she owned land in AR, but I have been
unable to find her. She was married to a Yother, but I don't know his name
and she had a son named Issac or Isaac. Issac is my ggrandfather. Also, I
would be glad to look up Yoder names on my CD's if anyone is interested.
There is a ton of Yoder's on them.

Thanks
Joan

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>From - Wed Jan 07 18:09:26 1998
From: "Ronald F. Yoder" <ryoder2@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

Kimberly,
I also use Family Tree Maker. My file contains only direct descendants plus
my wife's parents families. Except for recent information, I got my data
from the AAM book and "cousin" Chris.

Ron Yoder
(Currently In Indonesia"

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Toner <tonerk@stream.csis.gvsu.edu>
To: YODER-L@rootsweb.com <YODER-L@rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 5:45 AM
Subject: Unidentified subject!
>
>I recently became intrigued by family history when my fiance obtained
>Family Tree Maker software. I am a great-great grandchild of Moses H.
>Yoder and Barbara Kauffman. I have gathered a lot of information from your
>web site and from the Moses H. Yoder family book. I was wondering if
>anyone else is using Family Tree Maker and if so, if I could exchange
>files?
>
>Kimberly Toner
>Grand Valley State University
>Allendale, Michigan
>
>
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>From - Wed Jan 07 18:09:28 1998
From: "Ronald F. Yoder" <ryoder2@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: CD quality and other sources

I have tried at least a half a dozen genealogy programs over the years.
Family Tree Maker is by far the best I have tried and it does the various
types of charts better to. I have more than 600 names in mine and when I run
an ancestor chart it includes them all. It's a good program, (I wonder if I
can get some commercial credits from the Company.

Regarding the Broderbund CD's. As Joan has pointed out, these CD's are
nothing more than collections, that people like all of us have submitted for
inclusion. Broderbund (formally Banner Blue) makes no claim to their
accuracy or authenticity.

Of course the purpose is to sell them to make money. Isn't this the purpose
of any company. This doesn't make the CD's any less helpful. My own
collection started with information provided on the back of an envelope from
Editor Chris. I then purchased The AAM book to complete my direct
descendants back to YR1 & YR2. I then updated this information with all the
recent data I could find. Is all the information 100% accurate? H_ll no, but
then what genealogy data is. I submitted my data to Broderbund so that
others could readily import it into there tree rather than laboriously
typing it in one at a time. If enough people did this, think of the tree we
could leave for our descendants if they were interested!

-----Original Message-----
From: WStrip <WStrip@aol.com>
To: YODER-L@rootsweb.com <YODER-L@rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: CD quality and other sources

>I have the Family Treemaker program with CD #'s 1-7 and CD #9. I have
found
>some very good information on my families on the CD's along with some
>incorrect information. The information on the CD's are family history
>research submitted by individuals and some of them have documented their
>sources. I don't take any of the information as gospel but sometimes it
does
>point me in a direction to search that I had not known about before.
>Unfortunately, none of my Yother's are on any of the CD's that I have. If
any
>of you should have the Family Tree Maker CD of land records for AR, AL, GA,
>TN, etc., would you mind looking for Nellie Melinda Yother and see what
County
>she is in and let me know. I am sure she owned land in AR, but I have been
>unable to find her. She was married to a Yother, but I don't know his name
>and she had a son named Issac or Isaac. Issac is my ggrandfather. Also, I
>would be glad to look up Yoder names on my CD's if anyone is interested.
>There is a ton of Yoder's on them.
>
>Thanks
>Joan
>
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>From - Wed Jan 07 18:09:41 1998
From: dkauffma@planet.eon.net
Subject: Re: CD quality and other sources

Ronald F Yoder said:

snip, snip ...

>Regarding the Broderbund CD's. As Joan has pointed out, these CD's are
>nothing more than collections, that people like all of us have submitted for
>inclusion. Broderbund (formally Banner Blue) makes no claim to their
>accuracy or authenticity.

Heard an interesting (true) story about a fellow (we will call him John)
who found a reference to his father and family in a book that someone had
done. In this book Father was reported to have died in World War II. Now
John and all his siblings were born AFTER WWII. Their father is the man
who supposedly had died during the war.

John tracked down the author of the book to helpfully correct a very
obvious error, and when he talked to her on the telephone she (the
author) got very irrate because she was sure that what she had in her
book was correct. "I found that information on the Internet", she said.

--------
A researcher's motto:
Everyone is incorrect, except me and thee, and sometimes I wonder about
thee.
<grin>
--------
Thanks to those who responded to my question regarding quality of the
info on CDs. I am now convinced that these disks are at least as good as
all the other collections that are available. And I have made a couple of
email friends as a result of that query!

-------- more snip, snip ...

>I submitted my data to Broderbund so that
>others could readily import it into there tree rather than laboriously
>typing it in one at a time. If enough people did this, think of the tree we
>could leave for our descendants if they were interested!

I figure all of this family data, about our dearly departed, is public
info and should be freely shared. Note, I said "departed". I believe that
info about LIVING people should NOT be put up on the Internet. That is an
invasion of privacy which doesn't need to happen.

I am all for sharing of gedcoms and files to avoid the work of keying in
all of the data which someone has already done.

Happy hunting!

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>From - Thu Jan 08 23:09:35 1998
From: dkauffma@planet.eon.net
Subject: Re: CD quality and other sources

>I agree with you about information on living people being published on the
>internet or anywhere else without their permission. On the WFT CD's, If a
>person is still living, the only thing that is shown about them is their
>name,
>spouse's name and children's names. All dates and locations have the word
>"Private" inserted.

My opinion of these WFT CD's just went up several notches. Thanks.

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>From - Sat Jan 10 00:53:41 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Yoder's Country Kitchen, Arthur, Ill

Come Visit:

http://www.arthuril.com/Yoders/home1.htm

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>From - Sat Jan 10 21:17:42 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: For Richer or For Poorer

Just took my family to see the movie "For Richer or For Poorer", in which Tim Allen and
Kirstie Alley play a married couple "on the lamb" from the IRS who end up disguised as
an Amish couple named: "Samuel and Emma Yoder"....

My own great grandparents were: Samuel and Emma (Lupold) Yoder (YR2337a2)

Other Samuel and Emma Yoders include:

Samuel and Emma (Kauffman) Yoder (YR233448a)
Samuel and Emma (Stutzman) Yoder (YRB1145)

What other Samuel and Emma Yoders are out there? Any in your line?

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>From - Mon Jan 12 00:09:30 1998
From: Judy Gurka <gurka@alumni.cs.colorado.edu>
Subject: Re: YODER in New Netherlandt?

Anna Belle mentioned a family story about Yoders (4 brothers)
coming to New Netherlandt (early New York). By way of negative
information, I can say I've done lots of reading, because my
mom, Elner WALTERS BORTZ, has a line back to there, via LETTEER.
I've never seen the Yoder name, or anything like it, and I'm
sure it would have caught my attention. Of course, it may have
ve-e-e-ry "Dutchified," so as to be unrecognizable ...

If anyone is interested in info on the on-line mailing list, or
a great newsletter, for New Neth., email me for details. Anna
Belle, you could post a query on/in either.

Judy BORTZ GURKA

** researching any BORTZ connections

Yost Yoder (OY1) >> Jacob Yoder >> Johannes Yoder, b. 1763 >>
>> Johannes Yoder, b. 1794 m. Magdalena BREYFOGEL, b. 1805
>> Mary Ann Yoder, 1838-1860, m. David BERK/BERG
(David m. (2) Margaret RAPP)
>> Sarah Anne BERG, b. 1858, m. Heinrich Franklin BORTZ, b. 1863
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>From - Mon Jan 12 00:09:41 1998
From: Anna Belle Emery <annab@azstarnet.com>
Subject: Re: YODER in New Netherlandt?

Judy Gurka wrote:
>
> Anna Belle mentioned a family story about Yoders (4 brothers)
> coming to New Netherlandt (early New York). By way of negative
> information, I can say I've done lots of reading, because my
> mom, Elner WALTERS BORTZ, has a line back to there, via LETTEER.
> I've never seen the Yoder name, or anything like it, and I'm
> sure it would have caught my attention. Of course, it may have
> ve-e-e-ry "Dutchified," so as to be unrecognizable ...
Judy,

Thanks for the info. I am just starting my geneology research so I
appreciate your input. One part of the story I forgot to relate was
that one of the brothers got lost!! Perhaps it is all a tale that got
changed in the retelling over the years. Again, thanks for your help.

Anna Belle Yoder Emery

Researching ancestors and descendents of my paternal grandfather, Rev.
E. Stanton Yoder (YB13994)and my maternal grandparents, Mary Catherine
Bain b.8/10/1856 d.1943 m. William F. Dell.
> If anyone is interested in info on the on-line mailing list, or
> a great newsletter, for New Neth., email me for details. Anna
> Belle, you could post a query on/in either.
>
> Judy BORTZ GURKA
>
> ** researching any BORTZ connections
>
> Yost Yoder (OY1) >> Jacob Yoder >> Johannes Yoder, b. 1763 >>
> >> Johannes Yoder, b. 1794 m. Magdalena BREYFOGEL, b. 1805
> >> Mary Ann Yoder, 1838-1860, m. David BERK/BERG
> (David m. (2) Margaret RAPP)
> >> Sarah Anne BERG, b. 1858, m. Heinrich Franklin BORTZ, b. 1863

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>From - Mon Jan 12 07:07:24 1998
From: "Steven A. Braman" <braman@wws.net>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: For Richer or For Poorer]

ChrisYoder wrote:
>
> Sorry I mixed the name...The main characters are Jacob and Emma
> Yoder....Samuel Yoder was in a supporting role...Just glanced through the
> index to AAMG, and see no couple of that name...How about you all?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: For Richer or For Poorer
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 10:29:26 -0800
> From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
> To: yoder-l@rootsweb.com
>
> Just took my family to see the movie "For Richer or For Poorer", in which Tim Allen and
> Kirstie Alley play a married couple "on the lamb" from the IRS who end up disguised as
> an Amish couple named: "Samuel and Emma Yoder"....
>
> My own great grandparents were: Samuel and Emma (Lupold) Yoder (YR2337a2)
>
> Other Samuel and Emma Yoders include:
>
> Samuel and Emma (Kauffman) Yoder (YR233448a)
> Samuel and Emma (Stutzman) Yoder (YRB1145)
>
> What other Samuel and Emma Yoders are out there? Any in your line?
Chris, I took a quick look at the index for DBH, DJH, and the Daniel
Bender Book, and did not find a Jacob and Emma. The closest that I found
was a Jacob and Oma (Miller) Yoder DBH 2384. Oma in index/Naomi in Text.
Is Emma a common nickname for another first name ie.. Veronica/Franny?
Actually Emma does not seem to be too common of an Amish first name. In
Index C of AAMG (Index of Unknown Maiden Names) Emma is only listed
eight times. Notice the long lists of other names such as Anna, Mary or
Elizabeth. I do however think that if we search long enough we will
probably find a Jacob and Emma.

Steven A. Braman
http://www.wws.net/sbraman/genlink.html

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>From - Mon Jan 12 07:07:26 1998
From: Ggyphotog <Ggyphotog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: For Richer or For Poorer]

Pure Fiction

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>From - Mon Jan 12 18:25:07 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: [Fwd: For Richer or For Poorer]

Sorry I mixed the name...The main characters are Jacob and Emma
Yoder....Samuel Yoder was in a supporting role...Just glanced through the
index to AAMG, and see no couple of that name...How about you all?

My own great grandparents were: Samuel and Emma (Lupold) Yoder (YR2337a2)

Other Samuel and Emma Yoders include:

Samuel and Emma (Kauffman) Yoder (YR233448a)
Samuel and Emma (Stutzman) Yoder (YRB1145)

What other Samuel and Emma Yoders are out there? Any in your line?

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>From - Tue Jan 13 17:15:05 1998
From: Gary Anderson <gandrsn@ocean.otr.usm.edu>
Subject: re: jno

Carolyn Lyson,

Possibly, the Jno abbreviation you have seen could be for Junior? Some
folks "open" their periods and they end up looking like letter o. I have
definitely seen examples of this while perusing early census entries,
which are handwritten.

Gary
--

Gary Anderson (mailto:gandrsn@otr.st.usm.edu)
http://tidepool.st.usm.edu/gandrsn/gandrsn.html

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>From - Tue Jan 13 17:14:58 1998
From: Carolyn Lyson <carolyn@narrows.com>
Subject: Is Jno an abbreviation?

Fellow Yoder list followers -

I have come across the first name/abbreviation "Jno" numerous times in
my research. Does anyone know whether this is an abbreviation, and if
so what for?

Thanks.
Carolyn Lyson
carolyn@narrows.com

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>From - Tue Jan 13 17:15:01 1998
From: Ggyphotog <Ggyphotog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Is Jno an abbreviation?

JOHN

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>From - Tue Jan 13 17:15:03 1998
From: trc@aluxs.micro.lucent.com (Tim R. Conrad)
Subject: Re: Is Jno an abbreviation?

Jno? I believe Jno is short of "Jonathan" which is usually a distinct
name. However, I've seen Jno used for "John" the short form of German
Johannes on occasions (I'm guessing it was more often in the tax lists
perhaps of English tax collectors?).

Tim

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>From - Tue Jan 13 17:15:07 1998
From: Plattshirl <Plattshirl@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Is Jno an abbreviation?

I believe it is the abbreviation for John...

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>From - Thu Jan 15 23:30:18 1998
From: The Dahlbergs <dahlberg@ricochet.net>
Subject: responses

Dear YODER-L@rootsweb.com readers: when someone posts interesting
information on the site such as an advertisement, or a reference of
quite specific information which you would like to pursue, may I gently
suggest that it is okay to respond directly to the source of that
item. I have struck up several wonderful and beneficial
correspondences with Yoders and, on another rootsweb site, Zooks. It
can be done privately by picking off the address of the party to whom
you wish and responding directly to that individual address. If your
response is of a general interest I am always glad to have a chance to
puruse it. But to be honest, and sorry if I sound a little grinchlike,
it would seem that a whole rootsweb response is not always a necessary
approach. . .

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>From - Thu Jan 15 23:30:17 1998
From: ceagle52 <ceagle52@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Searching

Jay Warren wrote:
>
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> subscriptions to over 100 fee-based databases and every CD-ROM set
> publicly available, FAR BEYOND what is available for free online. The
> best part about our service is the fee: our service is just $20 per
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>
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> of every item available on the Internet, (8) non-US records (a
> specialty), (9) trace of nearest living relatives and much more....
> Email with search requests or for more information.
>
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=

Please send me more information about your offer to do research and only
charge if the requested information is found. It sounds too good to be
true.

I'm interested in finding the parents of someone born in 1846 in Posey
County, IN. I have a few leads and lots of dead ends; one of the leads
concerns Conrad Yoder. I do have information on this person for the
period 1850-1913 but no death certificate.

Let me know if this is something you can undertake and whether a credit
card is the only acceptable method of payment (would prefer to pay by
check.)

My cousin may also interested in your services (for another ancestor)
and I will pass the information on to her.

RSVP to <ceagle52@earthlink.net>

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>From - Thu Jan 15 17:39:07 1998
From: ginseng@sssnet.com
Subject: Re: Is Jno an abbreviation?

>Jno? I believe Jno is short of "Jonathan" which is usually a distinct
>name. However, I've seen Jno used for "John" the short form of German
>Johannes on occasions (I'm guessing it was more often in the tax lists
>perhaps of English tax collectors?).

The few Jno's I've seen have been Johannes, aka John. The Jno was
in census records. Won't give you the odd surname spellings that
went with them.

Chris, I'm going to be looking at 1860-70 Holmes Co, Paint-Salt Creek Twp.
Also a few of Stark and Wayne Twp's. For census records, what Yoder ones
do you still need? May be able to check a few adjacent townships. Let me
know

Ginseng@sssnet.com

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>From - Fri Jan 16 17:16:04 1998
From: ginseng@sssnet.com
Subject: Ohio Census/Yoder list spams

At 05:55 PM 1/15/98 -0800, you wrote:
>YOU WROTE:
>
>Chris, I'm going to be looking at 1860-70 Holmes Co, Paint-Salt Creek Twp.
>Also a few of Stark and Wayne Twp's. For census records, what Yoder ones
>do you still need? May be able to check a few adjacent townships. Let me
>know
>
>WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE ON OHIO 1860 YODER RECORDS....AND I HAVE A VOLUNTEER
>IN FT.WAYNE WORKING ON OHIO 1880 (FIRST YEAR WITH A SOUNDEX)...DOES 1870
>HAVE A PRINTED INDEX?
>
>I CAN'T THINK OF ANY SPECIFIC LINES TO LOOK FOR, AND IT
>DOESN'T SEEM WORTH YOUR EFFORT TO JUST HUNT THROUGH...EVENTUALLY WOULD
LIKE TO
>DO THE FULL 1870...BUT THAT MAY NEED TO AWAIT A PUBLISHED INDEX FOR IT.

Don't know if there is an index, I've found most of my people weren't
spelled properly anyway. I've been going thru my county/townships, page
by page. I find many more of my people that way. You wouldn't BELIEVE some
of the variations I've found! Well, maybe you would :) I already have most
of my 1850 and 1880's looked up. It won't be much trouble to write down any
Yoder (& variations) I find when going thru them. Tried looking at soundex
1900 for some of my lines, but that seemed pretty confusing to me. (I am
the one who couldn't figure out genealogy.com's listserver)

For Holmes Co, I will be for sure looking at Paint, SaltCreek, Prarie,
Walnut Creek Twp's, maybe Hardy and Knox. City/Town of Winesburg.

If you already have 1860, guess I'll start on 1870's. If you want me to watch
out for Yoder/etc let me know. Is there any standard format that you want them
in?

Another thing I want to ask you about. We seem to have been found by the
spammers finally (on the yoder list). Do we want to continue with the
open list, and possibly more spams now that they've found us, or require
them to belong to the list to post? Or do we want to see how much comes thru?

Ginseng

PS Was there a problem with genealogy11@juno.com? They don't seem to be
on the -L list. Perhaps they were on the -D list. Just noticed the messages
after answering your email. Eudora filters messages for me and I usually
answer personal ones first.
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>From - Tue Jan 20 19:21:42 1998
From: "Lee J. Stoltzfus" <lees@redrose.net>
Subject: Greetings from a Stoltzfus/Yoder

Greetings Yoderites,

I though I would take a minute to delurk and introduce myself.

I am a forty-something, Lancaster-County Stoltzfus with Somerset-County Yoder roots. My mom is from
the formerly-Amish Yoder freundschaft (sp?) in Somerset County.

I am not as skilled at all this genealogy stuff as some of you (Hi, Joe Miller) but I enjoy keeping in touch
with my ancestral roots, nonetheless. I always enjoy visiting my Yoder relatives in Somerset County, and
should probably do that more often. Many of my Yoder relatives, there, are Beachy Amish.

My maternal grandparents were Lewis S. Yoder and Elizabeth Beachy, from the Springs area. Anyone
know anything about them?

I am a real fan of Pennsylvania German arts and antiques, particularly stuff that relates to my Anabaptist
heritage. And, I must confess that I am something of an amateur self-taught geek. If you are really bored
right now, you can check out several web sites I programmed:

The Gardens of Lancaster County
(I am a landscaper/garden writer by trade.)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2137

Fraktur Fanatic: A Cybercenter For Pennsylvania German Arts
(I am a folk-art fan, by avocation.)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2137/folkart.html

Anyone in here related to me? Any Beachy Amish Yoders in here? Anyone know of any good Somerset
County Yoder fraktur?

Sincerely,

Lee J. Stoltzfus
Lititz, PA

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>From - Tue Jan 20 19:21:40 1998
From: "Steven A. Braman" <braman@wws.net>
Subject: Link to Historical Maps

I have added a link, on my genealogy web page, to a great site with
Historical maps on it. It is at the University of Texas at Austin.
Included are several exploration maps, and maps every ten years showing
the expansion of the United States. The exploration maps show major
trails and roads at different times during the settlement of the U.S,
along with some opening text. These may be a real valuable tool to help
you track your ancestors across the continent. My web site is at
http://www.wws.net/sbraman/genlink.html .

Steven A. Braman
braman@wws.net

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>From - Fri Jan 30 18:09:43 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Schweitzer Christian Yoder Cemetery Restoration

For details of restoration plans see:

http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/announce.html#anchor389829

Here is a draft of the text for a brass marker planned for
the Schweitzer Christian Yoder cemetery...comments welcome:

Old Yoder Cemetery

This cemetery lies on the original homestead of "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder
(c1728-1816). He purchased a 606 acre plot in Somerset Co. on Oct. 9,1775
for &968. Christian brought his large family from berks Co., and was a founder
of the "Glades" Amish congregation. He originally arrived at Philadelphia on the
ship "Francis and Elizabeth" on sep. 21, 1742.

Son John Yoder purchased the homestead in 1796. John and his wife Barbara
rest under two of the only marked graves in this cemetery. It is likely that
"Schweitzer" Christian and many of his other descendants lie under the unmarked
stones.

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>From - Sat Jan 31 15:29:01 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Stutzman/Yoder Connection

CAN ANYONE HELP IDENTIFY THE FAMILIES INVOLVED HERE?
------
RE: Stutzman Family

Chris, I am searching for the descendants of Jacob B. Stutzman. I have
come in possession of old photographs and papers belonging to a Milo J.
Stutzman, whom I believe to be the son of Jacob B. There is one photo
which includes a "Sadie Yoder". I can find no internet site for the
Stutzman family, so I am hoping you can help me. I would like to get this
material to the family. Any assistance you can give me will be
appreciated.

Sincerely,
Pam G. Williams 105572.1150@COMPUSERVE.COM
---------------------------------------------
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>From - Sat Jan 31 19:13:32 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: On This Day in Yoder History

English translation by Leroy Beachy:

"Our brother Menno Simons died in the year of our Lord Jesus Christ 1561 on the
31st of January in Westenfelde and is buried there. So it is from that - time to the
present 1809, the 31st of January, 248 years. But according to the old time, I think.
--------------------------------------------------------------------Christian Yoder Sr."

This writing was found on a small scrap of paper in an old Martyrs Mirror which was
in Amish hands. It is believed that this Christian was probably YR23 ("Schweitzer").
It is now 437 years since the death of Menno Simons and 189 years since Christian Yoder
Sr. wrote this note.

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>From - Sun Feb 01 10:29:09 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Veronica (Vroni) YODER mar Michael DENLINGER bef 1728

Elaphe2 wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> Trying to locate any information about the above named Veronica YODER and
> Michael DENLINGER. They are supposed to be the parents of Mary DENLINGER b
> 1728 Lancaster Co,PA who mar Jacob HOCKMAN, Joseph FUNK and Michael KLIPPLE in
> Shenandoah Co, VA per From the Rhine to the Shenandoah by Daniel W. BLY. Not
> all at once, of course.
>
> I hail from the FUNK line which settled thereafter in Washington Co,KY.
>
> Thanks much for any assistance.
>
> Mike Judd
>
> ==== YODER Mailing List ====

I'm preparing for the April Yoder Newsletter...will gladly run your
query..could you give me your snail mail address to include?

Chris

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>From - Sun Feb 01 11:21:20 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Veronica (Vroni) YODER mar Michael DENLINGER bef 1728

SORRY----I forgot to include the addess of the Requestor, which is
Elaphe2 <Elaphe2@aol.com>

ChrisYoder wrote:
>
> Elaphe2 wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Trying to locate any information about the above named Veronica YODER and
> > Michael DENLINGER. They are supposed to be the parents of Mary DENLINGER b
> > 1728 Lancaster Co,PA who mar Jacob HOCKMAN, Joseph FUNK and Michael KLIPPLE in
> > Shenandoah Co, VA per From the Rhine to the Shenandoah by Daniel W. BLY. Not
> > all at once, of course.
> >
> > I hail from the FUNK line which settled thereafter in Washington Co,KY.
> >
> > Thanks much for any assistance.
> >
> > Mike Judd

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>From - Mon Feb 02 18:18:33 1998
From: "Edward W. Yoder" <71506.1145@compuserve.com>
Subject: Yoder Query

Dear Chris,

PLEASE, how do I get off this mailing list? I've tried several times, but
to no avail.

Thanks, Ed.

P>S> My brother, Dave, still has lingering effects from his prostate
surgery. He's building a hangar next to his home in West Palm Beach.
We're at our Winter home in Cape Coral, just 125 miles west of Dave's
place.

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>From - Mon Feb 02 18:17:25 1998
From: "Donald G. Honeywell" <104602.1651@compuserve.com>
Subject: Stutzman/Yoder Connection

Dear Pam:
You may wish to refer to page 3 of the MELCHIOR YODER (M) data for
reference to a Mary Yoder (xxM2) who married Martin STUTZMANN, who died
1759. This appears to me to be very sketchy and minimal data. Since
photography began in 1839, there could be no photos in their era.

All best wishes in Christ,
Don Honeywell, Cub Hill, Baltimore County, Maryland

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>From - Tue Feb 03 18:59:21 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: QUERY ON OHIO YEATER FAMILY

The Following Query was posted on our guestbook...
If you can help, please reply to the author...
------------------------------------------------------
Decendant of Johannes Yeater (1724-1805). Johannes/Lewis Sr/Lewis
Jr./Michael/Alexander/Mohler/Harry/ James N. Yeater / ....
Seeking info on a Glenn Yeater and a Lawrence Ivan Yeater (b.1933)
both from the Mansfield, Oh area.
James N. Yeater <yeater@witty.com>
Vanlue, OH USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 15:49:26 (PST)
------------------------------------------------------

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>From - Thu Feb 05 14:23:34 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: UPDATE Posted to FTP File at Yoder Archives

A Major annual update has been made to files at the Yoder Archives.

Come visit!

These have been posted to the file transfer protocol (FTP) directory
at the Homepage and can be drawn down from that point. They will
gradually be hypertexted and placed into the normal webpages.

SUMMARY OF CHANGES:

The principal changes with the Feb. 1998 updates are:
1) Addition of a generation of Yoder Family Groups throught all
family files...This includes families married and with a first child by the time of
the 1900 census. We want to give a special thanks to Rachel Kreider for
reviewing all of the Amish draft family sheets and for posting extensive
additions throughout (with update of spousal cross-references).
2) New and Detailed files from Bruce Yetter on the Descendants
of Samuel Yetter of Columbia Co., Pa. (yet-1,2,3,and indx.doc).
3) Yoder extracts from Wayne County, Oh Cemeteries (thanks to
the help of Joyce Mitchell).(wayne-oh.doc)
4) New translations of German Yoder Notes by Karl Joder and
Ottmar Jotter (schwetz.doc, oleykarl.doc, st-joder.doc) translated thanks
to Mr. Fred Haines.

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>From - Thu Feb 05 14:23:36 1998
From: merlejr@juno.com
Subject: Yoder Semi

I was on my way home from work in the metrowest part of Boston (Rt 128)
when I passed a semi with a trailer that said "Yoder" on it in rather
large letters. There were flowers across the side of the trailer & a
slogan stating somthing about growing. I saw an identical truck back in
'91or '92 and took some pictures of it as it was parked in a lot near
where I was living.

Anyone know what Yoder business this is? Just curious.

Later,
Merle Yoder, Jr.
Norwood, MA
merlejr@juno.com
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>From - Thu Feb 05 16:27:06 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Yoder Semi

merlejr@juno.com wrote:
>
> I was on my way home from work in the metrowest part of Boston (Rt 128)
> when I passed a semi with a trailer that said "Yoder" on it in rather
> large letters. There were flowers across the side of the trailer & a
> slogan stating somthing about growing. I saw an identical truck back in
> '91or '92 and took some pictures of it as it was parked in a lot near
> where I was living.
>
> Anyone know what Yoder business this is? Just curious.
>
> Later,
> Merle Yoder, Jr.
> Norwood, MA
> merlejr@juno.com

We've mentioned Yoder Brothers several times in the YNL over the years,
but here is a new items on them which will appear in the April YNL...

YODER MUMS EXCEL!
>From the Toronto Star, Sat Oct 4, 1997--"Yoder Brothers Inc of
Barberton, Ohio, a little south of Cleveland, must be happy, though.
[that few gardeners propagate future mums from those on hand]
Of the millions of garden mums sold across North America every
fall, more than two thirds, including all of the top 10 bestsellers, are
from the Prophet series that Yoder introduced just a little more than
10 years ago. (A Yoder operation in Leamington, Ont., breeds for
Canada.) Their Number 1 bestseller is an early-September blooming
red mum called Helen. . . " contrib by-ekjohnson@worldnet.att.net

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>From - Thu Feb 05 18:41:55 1998
From: "Lee J. Stoltzfus" <lees@redrose.net>
Subject: Re: Yoder Semi

Greetings,

I'm sure this question will really expose my genealogical ignorance, but
here goes, anyway. Are the Yoders of mum fame related to the
Amish-Mennonite Yoders of Somerset County. If so, I guess I better buy
up some of their mums for my landscaping business. Maybe they'll give me
a Yoder discount.

Thanks,

Lee J. Stoltzfus
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2137
Lititz, PA
(Greatgrandson of Solomon D. Yoder and Barbara Yutzy)

==== YODER Mailing List ====

>From - Wed Feb 04 06:46:52 1998
From: Plattshirl@aol.com
Subject: Jacob Yoder, son of Jonathon S Yoder

Hi,

I'm in search of Jacob Yoder who is thought to have been b. 1852 Holmes Co,
OH son of Jonathan S. Yoder and Mary Plank. He married 14 Feb 1872 Nancy M.
Yount (Mount?) and 2) 6 Sept 1884 to Barbara Keller. He had a daughter, Mary
Angeline Yoder b. @1885 who m. 23 Nov 1890 Daviess Co, IN 1) John Hilary
Mattingly and 2) LeRoy Coward; she died @1952 in Martin Co, IN. Jacob
probably had another daughter Effie Yoder Guess, and a son Grover Yoder.

Mary Plank Yoder died in Gypsun City, Saline County, KS at the home of her dau
Susanna Yoder Peterson. It is not know what became of Jacob.

Jonathon S. and Mary Plank Yoder's were in LaGrange Co, IN in 1860. They had
other children: Lydia m. Jeptha Hooley; Susanna m. Lewis Allen ? 2) Hans
Peterson ?; Quincy m. Leanna Brock; Elizabeth; Malinda m. Wesley Satterfield.

Any clue to what became of Jacob Yoder or any of his siblings or children?

Shirley Platt

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>From - Thu Feb 05 23:20:41 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Berks County, Pa Sites

Thanks To: stretch3@juno.com (Robert E. Keller)

Some research sites that I'm sure will interest you.

www.lebmofo.com/berksgen
(Berks Co. Gen Society)

www.berksregofwills.com
(This is a particularly nice search site for estates,
births, deaths, marriages in Berks Co)

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>From - Wed Feb 04 19:26:52 1998
Subject: Re: Veronica (Vroni) YODER
From: jmslabaugh@juno.com (John M. Slabaugh)

West Union, IA, Weds, 4 February 1998

On Wed, 04 Feb 1998 01:11:13 -0800 ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
writes:
< snip>
>John mark,
>
>Any idea where Ibersheim is??? Maybe a "HOT LEAD" ?
>
>Chris
--------------
Could be! Ibersheim is located eight miles north of Worms, about fifteen
miles northwest of Heidelberg. This post is intriguing not alone because
of a location, but because it mentions the birth date (abt 1680) and
father (Daniel) of Frances (Vroni) Yoder.

I found the place name and location in my Lauver book re: a Mennonite
Stauffer family. (Being away from home presently I can,t do further
searching in me genealogy materials.) 1680 places Vroni one generation
older than the Amish Yoder immigrant brothers of 1742. I am inclined to
the view that Ibersheim was a Mennonite community and unlikely to have
Amish brethren but we ought not to write this off without further
research. Daniel is not a common name among early Amish families either.

I have indicated to you in the past that I wondered if Eppstein was the
point of emigration for our Yoders. I am unable to check the proximity
of Ibersheim and Eppstein but I think they are close (twenty to thirty
miles). Eppstein as you know had a considerable number of Yoders (with
suitable given names) some years prior to 1742. I was able to persuade
Lois Ann Mast to take us via Eppstein in 1995 and we visited a Mennonite
church there. Likewise there was a Jacob Hertzler (NOT the well known
early Amish bishop but a Mennonite) who migrated from there. I have come
to the conclusion then that Eppstein was most likely a Mennonite
community and not likely the home of the immigrant Yoders. (As with
Ibersheim though, I don,t think we should take it off the table.) If
memory serves, we were informed while in Eppstein that records of the era
we are interested in are now located in Lachen.

Is there any way we can locate some energetic European Yoder to try
looking into places like Ibersheim, Eppstein and Lachen? With e-mail, we
can rapidly exchange facts with someone like that.

I had hoped the Yoder forum would generate new information but it has
served best for those not yet fully aware of their own ancestry, not for
breaking new ground in the unknown earlier generations. I continue to
monitor the forum and intend to remain on it. Hope springs eternal! I
appreciate your efforts to make it more interesting.

On another matter, what is MIME format? I see this frequently in
e-mails. Usually I get a readable message (as with your most recent)
plus lots of gibberish in an apparent repeat of the message I could read.
Do I need some additional program to properly receive MIME posts?

Warmest regards as always, JM

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>From - Sun Feb 08 08:44:04 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Message from the North Carolina Yoders
------------------------------------------------------
I am the 'manager' of the reunion of the N.C. Yoder's. We hosted the national gathering
of the Yoder Clan in 1995. Our annual reunion is held the 2nd Sunday in August, this
year 8/9/98 at Zion Lutheran Church south of Hickory. Everyone always welcome! Con!
tact me anytime you are in our area. I'm eager to show people around our wonderful
county. Our addresses----

Yoder Family in North Carolina Ted M. & Donna Yoder
POB 10281 Mtn View Sta 2208 Frye Ave
Hickory, NC 28601 Hickory NC 28602
704-294-0054 (h)
704-328-1801 (w)

We hope to have NC Yoder homepage soon.
I wish to note the passing on 2/2/98 of Hugh Morris of Houston TX, my brother-in-law,
who sang with my sister Mary Rose at the 1995 gathering.

The Catawba County Historical Museum doing a program on Sun 2/8 on 'Col. George M. Yoder
- Catawba's First Historian'. See YNL #29 for a feature on him.
Rachael Kennedy, our president doing well now after bad sickness in 1996. Richard
Yoder, our board chairman, has some health problems and not as mobile as he would like,
but still loves talking about most everything, especially our beloved and proud family.

Let us hear from you. -- TMY
Ted M. Yoder <theomurray@aol.com>
Hickory, NC USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 07:27:54 (PST)
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>From - Fri Feb 13 07:05:48 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: On These Days in Yoder History

Feb. 13, 1769- Early Pennsylvania surveyor David Schultze writes a letter
to Germany for brothers Melchior and Jacob Yoder (see YNL 16).

Feb. 15, 1818- David Yoder (OY418) married Catherine Weidener. They moved
fro Berks Co, Pa to Seneca Co, NY, where his descendnats still may be
found.

Feb. 16, 1806- a letter was written by Samuel Yoder (YRC) from Germany to
his "beloved cousin" "Schweitzer Christian" Yoder (YR23) in Somerset
County, Pa.(see YNL 9)

Feb. 17, 1865- Confederate soldier Traverse Yother (Con815) dies while a
POW at Camp Chase, Columbus, Oh (see YNL22).

Feb. 18, 1931- Joshua Yoder (OH13389) is murdered in Washington state.

Feb. 19, 1833- Samuel Yoder (OH13386) is born. Samuel, a Union soldier,
was held as a prisoner at Andersonville.

Feb. 20, 1926- Lorenzo T. Yoder (OY42413) dies- inventor of a
candy-crimper.

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>From - Thu Feb 05 14:23:39 1998
From: "Lee J. Stoltzfus" <lees@redrose.net>
Subject: Yoder Mum Moguls

Greetings,

The Yoder Brothers, of Barberton, Ohio, are the chrysanthemum kings of
the world. Mum moguls of the planet. Mum millionares.

A quick internet search for the phrase "Yoder Brothers" will give all
the flowery details.

G. Ramsey Yoder's picture is here:
http://www.plantnet.com/fm-board.htm
He is a board member of the Forists's Mutual Insurcance company, and
this is the insurance company's web site.

You can read about Yoders selling mums to the planet here:
http://kirin.topica.ne.jp/kirin1/yod_j.html
Apparently you can now buy their mums in Kenya.
(To read this page, you have to download the Holland Dutch version of
Windows 95, since that page in in Dutch.
Lucky us, though, they also have a hotlink to the English page.

You can see a picture of one of their greenhouses here:
http://www2.ncsu.edu/unity/lockers/project/floriculture/www/RALarson/ttw/ttw1.10/fig1.html

You can get their phone number and address here:
http://www.infrastructurenet.com/infrastructure/gpn/gpnsupp_y.html

And on, and on, with the Internet.

Looks like green thumbs run in the Yoder family.

Lee J. Stoltzfus (Half Yoder)
Lititz, PA
The Gardens of Lancaster County (My business/personal web site)
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2137

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>From - Wed Feb 25 20:14:35 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: OHIO 1880 and PA 1900 Yoder censuses added

Two major new files have been updated to the FTP directory on the
homepage...MANY THANKS TO DOROTHY YODER COFFMAN AND KEITH YODER
FOR THEIR EFFORTS...these will eventually be also "html'd" and
added to the census section of the Yoder Homepage..
more details below:

*********************************************************
1900 PA Yoder Census by Dorothy Coffman
Dorothy summarizes: "In 1880 there were 42 pages of entries. In 1900
there are 86! And here I felt all the Yoders had "gone west". Shows
what I know. Just for your info, there were 152 listings in Berks Co.
and 138 in Mifflin Co. For the given names of heads of households,
JOHN is the winner with 51. William had 40, and Samuel was next
with 40. One of the Williams married a gal born in Sweden--Her name
was Olga, what else." (Added to Yoder Data & Homepage files).
*********************************************************
***********************************************************
1880 OHIO YODER CENSUS by Keith Yoder..Thanks to Keith
Yoder of Ft.Wayne for his hard work collecting and typing this
information. (Now available in Yoder Data Disk and Homepage)
***********************************************************

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>From - Wed Feb 25 21:24:32 1998
From: Anna Belle Emery <annab@azstarnet.com>
Subject: Amish Yoder in Forbes Magazine

Did anyone else see Kore Yoder's picture on page 146 of the March 9,
1998 issue of Forbes Magazine? I haven't read the whole article (which
starts on page 138), yet but it is titled,"A second parting of the Red
Sea". The lead says "As technology and a high birthrate force them to
change their ways, the Old Order Amish are proving to be remarkabley
good capitalists."

I guess you just never know where we Yoders will turn up!!

Anna Belle Yoder Emery

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>From - Fri Feb 27 21:04:42 1998
From: "E. Melvin" <emelvin@warwick.net>
Subject: Yoder surname

Looking for information on the following Yoders:
Abraham b. 1904
Edna Pearl b.1914
Joy b. abt 1960
Stephen Lamar b.abt 1940

All beleive to be from the Maryland and Delaware area.
Thank you Gene Melvin

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>From - Sat Mar 14 08:21:34 1998
Subject: [Fwd: Around the world]
From: jhuratiak <jhuratiak@p3.net>

Chris,

I can't find the address for the newsgroup at the moment, so I thought I
would email you with this question. My son just completed an around the
world tour on the USS Nimitz. How many Yoders have sailed around the
world?

Regards,

Jim

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>From - Sat Mar 14 10:37:14 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: YODER

Denise....I'm posting your query to our listserver...possibly one of our
members may have or be able to get info to share with you...There are
several lines of Yoders(Joders) who had emigrated into Germany and France
which subsequently married into the Catholic Church...

In the file "france.doc" and "alsace.doc" --wish you had a date of birth
for your senior Peter, we could compare it with:

" 1/25/1855 Peter Joder f. de Joseph de Montbeliard + Marie Trosch
f. de Peter de Herimoncourt "

Good hunting...If I didn't get this into the queries for the
April YNL, will plan on running in in the fall issue
...Chris (Any researchers on the Alsatian side
out there who can help on this query?)

Skewesme1 wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> My Names is Denise Skewes and I am searching for information on my fathers
> family. A gentleman by the name of Brian gave me your e-mail adress and said
> that you also have done research on the Yoder name. I have very little
> information at this time and I'm waiting for several documents in the mail.
> This is what I have so far-
>
> Peter and Margurite immigrated from France in 1888 to the Bronx in New York.
> Margurite b 4/12/1856. Her parents were Peter and Madeline Graber(not 100%
> sure on last name). I believe Margurite was born in Belfort France. That was
> on her death certificate.
>
> Peter and Margurite had 2 sons. Peter August b5/4/1882 (some documents say
> switzerland, some say France. Joseph b 6/1887(1920 census lists him as only 2
> years younger than Peter) I am unable to find any information on Joseph.
>
> Peter August married a Josephine. I have no other information on her. She does
> not appear on the 1920 census. Peter and Josephine had 2 children. Margurite
> b. 2/23/1910. She m Luciano Cimenti,place and time unk. I'm was told they had
> three children. Peter Joseph b.9/9/1911 is my father. I am waiting for my
> fathers birth certificate from the city of New York, which takes at least 2
> months!
>
> Any information you might have on these people would be greatly appreciated.
> Most of the Yoders I have come across are Amish. My mother and father were
> married in the Catholic church, so I can only guess that my ancestors were
> Catholic.
>
> Thank you,
> Denise
> e-mail adress is skewesme1@aol.com

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>From - Mon Mar 16 19:50:18 1998
From: "Lee J. Stoltzfus" <lees@redrose.net>
Subject: Cool Yoder Spam

Hello Yoder Researchers,

Chris Yoder, owner of this list, tells me that it is ok to send y'all
some information about some Yoder memorabilia that I have. So here goes.

I am looking for good homes for two antique Yoder needlework pieces.
They are:

Item #1. Katie Yoder's ABC Sampler--A vibrant cross-stitch sampler
created for Katie Yoder (b.1847 d.1878), wife of David Yoder (b.1842
d.1909). This sampler was made for Katie Yoder c. 1870 by her sister,
Lizzie King (b.1849 d.1893).

The sampler includes Katie Yoder's name, Lizzie's initials, and the name
of their niece, Rebecca King (b.1842 d.1909) Rebecca added her name c.
1890. You can see a photo of this sampler, with more information, here:
http://www.yourantiques.com/needlework.html

Item #2. Sarah Yoder's Show Towel--A homespun-cotton show towel made
in 1852 by Sarah Yoder (b.1834 d.1897). Sarah lived in Mifflin County,
PA. She was the daughter of Nicolas Yoder and Leah (Yoder) Yoder. Sarah
married Joseph W. Byler (b.1828 d.1905)

Sarah Yoder sewed her name into the towel, "Sarah Yoder" and her
daughter, Lea, later added her name. Lea married Eli B. Zook. Sarah made
this towel to hang on a door. You can see a photo of this show towel,
with more information, here: http://www.yourantiques.com/ybtowel.html

Feel free to contact me with any questions.

Thanks, Chris, for letting me spam your list.

Lee J. Stoltzfus
Lititz, PA
lees@redrose.net
(I subscribe to this Yoder list because of my maternal Somerset County
Yoders)

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>From - Mon Mar 16 22:11:13 1998
From: "Blaine F. Miller" <orehill@bright.net>
Subject: Unidentified subject!

The John S. Yoder Home

When the Amish Heritage Foundation moved the Yoder Home to a new location
in Sugarcreeek back in May of 1995, we had three goals in mind: (1) to
preserve the 1869 Amish post and beam structure, one of Sugarrcreek's first
homes, for posterity;
(2) to restore the Yoder Home nearly as possible to its original 1869 state
to give visitors a look at a genuine Amish home; and
(3) to create an Amish Archives Room to hold, preserve and display Amish
and Yoder Family memorabilia.

After nearly three years of hard work we are getting closer to our dream
and hope to open this summer to our first visitors.

Moving the 92 ton structure cost over $18,000. We palletized the old
sandstone foundation and with the help of several Amish masonry gangs,
erected a new basement and dropped the Yoder Home upon it. We also built a
full length front porch with a basement beneath, to hide our restrooms and
heating plant. We installed a new slate roof on the porch; put a brick
floor in the old basement and built brick sidewalks from red solid floor
bricks. We completely stripped the interior rooms of updated woodwork and
six layers of wallpaper; removed several newer interior walls and painted
the exterior siding. Much of this work
was done by volunteer labor.

Currently, we will be patching plaster and drywalling where necessary. We
will replace four bad windows. Painting will follow.
We will then begin to furnish the kitchen, parlor and a bedroom before we
open in early summer.

Our funds are nearly exhausted. We hope there are those in the Yoder
Freundschaft and others who could help us in our endeavor. All gifts are
tax-free and will be gratefully acknowledged. Our mailing address is: The
Amish Heritage Foundattion,
Box 704, Sugarcreek, OH 44681.

Thank you,

Blaine F. Miller, Secretary-Treasurer

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>From - Mon Mar 23 06:53:57 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: YR261- Henry Yoder and Catherine Detweiler Bible found!

New dates and a new child identified in the records
revealed by this significant find!!! Watch for more news over
the listserver and hopefully a feature in the October YNL
(The April edition is already at the presses).

Chris Yoder
Editor, Yoder Newsletter

==== YODER Mailing List ====
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:48:35 -0800
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Yoder Receipes

Here are some more Yoder Receipes for the Yoder Cookbook Project.
How about some of the other Yoder lines making sure
your are represented in this effort of the Oley Yoders!!!

"Ma Yoders Pickel Receipt"
by Mrs. Samuel (Emma Lupold) Yoder
(YR2337a2) (1859-1922)
1 cup ground mustard.
1/2 cup salt.
1 gal. vinegar.
Pour over cold without salting pickles.

"Snake Bite"
by Mrs. Samuel (Emma Lupold) Yoder
(YR2337a2) (1859-1922)
Tobacco size of egg.
The same of salt & onion.
Pound all together.

"Nellies Grahm Loaf"
Nellie (Yoder) Limeric Tobias
(YR2337a22) (1883-1979)
1 pt. sour milk, 1 cup brown sugar, Lard size
of an egg, 2 teasp. soda, pinch of salt,
2 cups graham flour.

Dumplings
Mrs Ray S. (Lettie Dillon) Yoder
(YR2337a24) (1889-1980)
Beat white of one egg, 2/3 cup sweet milk,
2 teasp. baking powder, salt, 3 tabsp. lard.
Steam 20 minutes.

Butterless, Milkless & Eggless cake
Mrs Ray S. (Lettie Dillon) Yoder
(YR2337a24) (1889-1980)
1 cup brown sugar.
1 cup raisons.
1 cup lard.
1 cup water.
1/2 teasp. salt.
1/2 teasp. cinnamon.
1/2 teasp. cloves.
Boil 3 minutes and cool.
1 teasp. soda desolved in water.
2 cup flour.
1/2 cup nuts.

Biscuit or Short Cake
Mrs Ray S. (Lettie Dillon) Yoder
(YR2337a24) (1889-1980)
2 cups cake flour.
2 teaspoons of bakeing powder.
1/2 teaspoon of salt.
1/4 cup grandulated sugar.
1/3 cup of butter.
2/3 cup of milk.
Bake at 450 degrees.

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>From - Wed Mar 25 04:30:52 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Yoder recipes

ilse lieve ackerman wrote:
>
> Hello Chris:
>
> Who's doing the Yoder recipe project? To whom should we submit Yoder
> ancestor recipes?
>
> ilse

Hello ilse!

You can email to Richard B. Yoder, below...or just into the listserver,
and he'll get it that way as well ....Thanks for asking!

- - - - - - - -
Have you contrubuted a Receipe to the Yoder Cookbook Project?
Have you contributed to the Yoder Cookbook Project yet?
Send to Yoder-L or to ryoder@wcupa.edu

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>From - Wed Mar 25 04:30:55 1998
From: The Dahlbergs <dahlberg@ricochet.net>
Subject: aaaarggh

Am fascinated by

"Snake Bite"
by Mrs. Samuel (Emma Lupold) Yoder
(YR2337a2) (1859-1922)
Tobacco size of egg.
The same of salt & onion.
Pound all together.

Then what? Chew?
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>From - Wed Mar 25 18:25:40 1998
From: Chris Yoder <75757.3371@compuserve.com>
Subject: Entry to Guestbook

A new entry to the Yoder Homepage Guestbook....for info of
listserver members....Chris
------------------------------------------------------
Just wanted to let the Yoder families know about a book recently
published Masthof Press; RR 1 Box 20; Morgantown, PA 19543.
Title: "Where's Momma?, The Story of Mabel (Smucker) Yoder.
Written by her daughter Marion Delgrange of VA. This is a
wonderful book, I received a copy as a gift from one of Mabel's
granddaughters. It speaks well of the love and caring that
is present in the Yoder families. This is not an advertisement
for the book, I have no connections to Mastof publishing, nor
the Yoder family. I simply enjoyed the book and thought Yoder families
might also enjoy it. Thank you. Betty Burdan
Betty Burdan <bjbrudan@postoffice.ptd.net>
Boyertown, PA USA - Tuesday, March 24, 1998 at 20:47:58 (PST)
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>From - Thu Mar 26 06:30:32 1998
From: ilse lieve ackerman <ila1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Yoder recipes

I'm sending my favorite Yoder recipe -- it came from my great-grandpa when
he was 95 years old.

John Harvey Yoder (b. 11 July 1881)

1890 Corn meal mush

First, go to the corn crib and get a bushel or two of yellow corn ears.
Put them in the oven and heat them until parched a bit. Shell off the
grain and take to the mill where it is stone ground. When you're ready to
cook mush, you get the stick you keep for stirring it. If you can't find
it, cut a piece of hard wood about fifteen inches long and shaped like this
=====<O>. Have plenty of dry wood to make the fire. Take an iron kettle
holding 2-1/2 gallons. Fill it about 3/4 full with clean water. Add some
salt. When water begins to boil, take stick in one hand and with the other
drop meal slowly into the kettle, stirring all the time. Add corn meal
until it is thick enough to say "Pouff" when it boils. Let it boil a
little while but do not have enough fire under it to burn it to the kettle.
When it has boiled enough, you dip it out into rectangular pans about 2
inches deep. You eat what you want for supper with milk or butter and what
you have in pans you have for breakfast. Cut in slices and fry golden
brown on both sides and eat with maple syrup or apple butter, or better
yet, liver pudding. If it has been properly cooked you will find in the
bottom of the kettle a crust almost 1/2 inch thick. This we liked to eat
right from the kettle, taken out with a large spoon or pancake turner.

His recipe was published in Dutch Kettle Cookbook - Recipes from family and
friends, by Adella Brunk Kanagy, 1977.
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>From - Wed Apr 01 17:29:02 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: YR261- Henry Yoder and Catherine Detweiler Bible found!

ChrisYoder wrote:
>
> New dates and a new child identified in the records
> revealed by this significant find!!! Watch for more news over
> the listserver and hopefully a feature in the October YNL
> (The April edition is already at the presses).
>
> Chris Yoder
> Editor, Yoder Newsletter
>
> ==== YODER Mailing List ===

Slight correction... the Henry Yoder family record was found in the Bible
of his granddaughter Elizabeth (Mrs. Daniel) Beachy and her husband. It
was on a loose sheet placed in that Bible. The present owner received the
Bible a couple years ago and has only recently discovered what this page
represents... Keep posted for more details....

Chris Yoder

==== YODER Mailing List ====

>From - Thu Apr 02 23:57:40 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Bogus Family Crests

The following was seem on another family mailing list and is a good warning for Yoders
as well:
------------
Hello every one. They are at it again. That infamous company that promises
to send you your coat of arms and family history is sending out mass e-mail
offers again. This time they don't give their name or where they are from,
just 2 links to their web site. But it is still them. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS
GARBAGE !!
-------------
For years the YNL has warned readers against "Beatrice Bailey" of "Bath, Ohio" and other
such outfits which have periodically flooded the mails with bogus "(fill in your family
name here) Books" or crests, or whatever.... looks like these same kinds of outfits are
following us into the world of electronic mail...be forewarned and look with care at any
such offers.
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>From - Wed Apr 08 20:12:18 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Yoder Newsletter #31

Yoder Newsletter Number 31 (April 1998) is in the mail.

Highlights include:

Abraham N. Yoder--Montana Secretary of State

The Yoder Settlement of Wayne County, Ohio

A Yoder Indian Masacre?

And many more items. If you do not have a subscription:

**********************************************************
YNL PRICE INFORMATION $$$$
-The YNL subscription is on an annual basis-two issues for $3.
-BACK ISSUES of the YNL are $1 per issue.
-Yoder Newsletter Issues 1 Through 25 - bound 240 page volume
includes a topical index of major articles, an "every name index".
(Price $28 post paid).
Order from: The Yoder Newsletter, P.O.Box 594, Goshen, IN 46527.
**********************************************************

The text version will be posted to the ftp server on the Yoder Homepage
shortly...and not long thereafter will be available in hypertext.

---Chris Yoder, Editor

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>From - Wed Apr 08 23:09:41 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: On This Day in Yoder History

April 1- Eli Yoder (Con35) born in 1810

April 3- David Yoder (Con3) born in 1770
Adolphus Yoder (Con 32) d. 1876

April 4- Axie Joder died 1863 (see YNL 10)

1695, 4 April
Thun, Official Accounts

The Anabaptists Hans Rupp and Catryn Joder of the
Steffisburg [Free] Court have left the country. They must
pay an emigration fee of five percent for the property they
take with them.

1695, 4 April
Thun, Official Accounts

The Anabaptist Hanns Rupp of [Free] Court Steffisburg has
moved out of the country. He must pay a five percent
emigration fee of 368 pounds.

April 6- 1597, 6 April
Thun Urbar 6/IV/259

The stepmother of Jakob Joder (Frau Neuenschwender-
Neuschwender} is a disobedient, stiffnecked Anabaptist. Her
son-in-law Jakob Joder, at Amsoldingen, pays a fine of two
hundred pounds as the authorities share of her property. The
other sons-in-law, Thomas Neuschwender and Benedicht
Mettler, also at Amsoldingen, are guarantors.

April 7- Capt. Jacob Yoder (OH113) (see YNL 12) dies 1832 in
Spencer County, Ky
- John Yost Yoder (OY1) dies 1812, age 94 plus years

April 8- 1695, 8 April Thun, Official Accounts

The Anabaptist Christen Joder has emigrated and has left
Steffisburg. He must pay an emigration fee of five percent
for the property he takes with him.

April 9- Abraham Yoder (YB25) died 1836

April 11- Jacob Yoder (AS) d. 1864 Lewisburg, PA.

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>From - Fri Apr 10 17:12:30 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

Membership in the Yoder Listserver has reached 136 subscribers!!!

1) If you have not yet answered the Yoder "Roll Call",please do so and
let others know what line you represent. Sample of format at follows:

" I'll start it off:

1. Christian Yoder (c1695-c1775) (YR2)
2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
3. Bishop Christian Yoder Sr (1758-1838) (YR233)
4. Bishop Christian Yoder Jr (1790-1846) (YR2337)
5. Reuben Yoder (1831-1912) (YR2337a)
6. Samuel Yoder (1856-1927) (YR2337a2)
7. Ray S. Yoder (1886-1962)
8. Otho B. Yoder (1908-1995)
9. Chris Yoder (1949- )

(Of course you all don't really have to reveal how old you are!)"

2) If you have not yet taken the On-line tour of Steffisburg...
a Yoder origin point in Switzerland, come on over at:

http://home.att.net/~long.hair/steffi/

A Blessed Easter holiday for you and yours.

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>From - Fri Apr 10 21:33:50 1998
From: Anna Belle Emery <annab@azstarnet.com>
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

ChrisYoder wrote:
>
> Membership in the Yoder Listserver has reached 136 subscribers!!!
>
> 1) If you have not yet answered the Yoder "Roll Call",please do so and
> let others know what line you represent. Sample of format at follows:

1. Hans Yoder of Great Swamp (c1680-c1753) (YB)
> 2. John Yoder,Jr. (c1708-1782) (YB1)
> 3. Abraham Yoder (1747-1820) (YB13)
> 4. Jacob Yoder (1792-1865) (YB139)
> 5. Aaron M. Yoder (1837-1908) (YB1399)
> 6. Rev. E. Stanton Yoder (1867-c1937) (YB13994)
> 7. Wallace R. Yoder (1900-1969)
> 8. Anna Belle Yoder (1932- )
>
> (Of course you all don't really have to reveal how old you are!)"

I'm at the age where I forget my age if I don't write it down!! In our
retirement community we call forgetfulness having a "Senior Moment".
Anyway, hope all the Yoders everywhere have a Happy and Blessed Easter.
He is Risen, He is Risen, indeed! Hallelujah!

Anna Belle Yoder Emery

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>From - Fri Apr 10 21:33:53 1998
From: danakaye@webtv.net (kaye osterman)
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

It has been a while since I wrote, so here is my Yoder line:1.Christian
Yoder (c1700-1775 Europe-PA) 2.John Yoder (1754-1813 Europe-PA) 3.John
Yoder (1754-1842 PA-OH) 4.Magdelena Yoder (m. 1805 to
Christian King in PA) My second line of Yoders is 1.Jacob
Yoder(c1695-1742) 2.Magdelena Yoder (c1724- )m. to Christian Fisher.
That is all of my Yoders but I have the descendents on down.
Kaye Osterman

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>From - Fri Apr 10 21:33:57 1998
From: Donna Warner <drw13@atl.mindspring.com>
Subject: My Yoder line

My Yoder line is the Mennonite line, first from Lehigh Co PA and then from
Columbiana Co OH. (And therefore not in the Kreider-Gingrich book.)

1. Hans Joder (ca 1685-ca 1756) m Anna (immigrant)
2. John Yoder (ca 1710-ca 1770) m Anna Maria
3. Abraham Yoder (1747-1820) m Maria Sell
4. John Yoder (d 1866) m Anna Kauffman
5. Nancy Yoder (1812-1882) m Amos Holdeman
6. Alpheus Holdeman (1842-1899) m Elizabeth Buerge
7. Melinda Holdeman (1880-1973) m John F. Reitz
8. William Andrew Reitz (1903-1993) m Viola Hall
9. Donna Carol Reitz (1935-) m Jack Warner

Anyone else from this branch? I'd love to hear from you. Donna Warner

>
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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:26 1998
From: "CoraLynn McKelvy" <coralynnmckelvy@usa.net>
Subject: Re: YODER Roll Call

> 1) If you have not yet answered the Yoder "Roll Call",please do so and
> let others know what line you represent.

1. Christian Yoder (c1700-c1775)
2. Christian Yoder (1728-1816)
3. Barbara Yoder (1756- ) m.Joseph Forney/Fahrney
4. John Forney (1177-1846)
5. Michael Forney (1811-1894)
6. Edmund Forney (1838-1926)
7. Daniel L. Forney (1865-1947)
8. Ruth Elizabeth Forney (1896-1989) m.Harlan Jesse Brooks
9. Betty Jeanne Brooks (1925- ) m.Glen Alfred Campbell
10. Philip Glen Campbell m. CoraLynn Hunt
11. Christopher Philip Campbell
12. Corina Angelica Campbell
12. Rhiannon Seobhan Campbell
12. Faelyn Renee Campbell
11. Colleen Kimberley Campbell

CoraLynn
ne TN
coralynnmckelvy@usa.net

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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:50 1998
From: "Paolo Leone" <Leone@c3net.net>
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

> Here is mine =)
> 1. Christian Yoder (1700-1775)
> 2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
> 3. David Yoder (1763-1850)
> 4. Caleb Yoder (1798-1878)
> 5. Jacob Yoder (1838-1912)
> 6. Harvey G. Yoder (1884-1967)
> 7. Claude H.Yoder (1922-1998)
> 8. Judith A. Leone (1946 - )
> 9. Josephine P. Leone (1978 - )
>
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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:54 1998
From: "Paolo Leone" <Leone@c3net.net>
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

----------

>
> 1. Christian Yoder (1700-1775)
> 2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
> 3. David Yoder (1763-1850)
> 4. Caleb Yoder ( 1798-1878)
> 5. Jacob Yoder (1838 - 1912)
> 6. Harvey G. Yoder ( 1884 - 1967)
> 7. Claude H. Yoder (1922 - 1998)
> 8.Barbara E. Saleh ( 1963 - )
> 9. Anthony Saleh ( 1993- )

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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:58 1998
From: Yoduman <Yoduman@aol.com>
Subject: My Line

OK - here's my line (Mennonite)

1. Hans Yoder of the Great Swamp - YB (circa 1680 - 1753, Bucks Cty., PA)
2. John Yoder -YB1 (1708 - 1782, Bucks Cty., PA)
3. Abraham Yoder - YB13 (1747 - 1820, Bucks Cty., PA)
4. John Yoder - YB134 (1777 - 1866, Columbiana Cty., OH)
5. Samuel Yoder - YB1342 (1804 - 1835, Columbiana Cty., OH)
6. Rev. Samuel Yoder - YB13425 (1835 - 1925, Elkhart Cty.,
IN)
7. Elmer E. Yoder (1864 - 1941, St. Joseph Cty., IN)
8. Raymond W. Yoder (1909 - 1991, St. Joseph Cty.,
IN)
9. Charles E. Yoder (1938 - , St. Joseph Cty.,
IN)
10. ME - David C. Yoder (1958 - , St.
Joseph Cty., IN)

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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:36 1998
From: handlong@juno.com (Douglas B Handlong)

Yoder "Roll Call"

(I have 4 different Yoder lines... that tie in at different places and
end up with me.)

#1
1. Christian Yoder (c1695-c1775) (YR2)
2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
3.David Yoder (1763-1850) (YR235)
4. Caleb Yoder (1797-1878) (YR2356)
5. Samuel Yoder (1826-1900) (YR23564) m Barbara Yoder
6. Samuel S. Yoder (1867-1957) (YR235646)
7. Alvin Ward Yoder (1894-1977)
8. Dan Samuel Yoder (1937- )
9. Deanne Yoder (1971- )

#2
1. son ? Yoder (c1695-c1742) (YR1)
2. Christian Yoder (1722-1772) (YR12)
3. John Yoder (1753-????) (YR125)
4. Daniel Yoder (1777-1854) (YR1253) m. Barbara Yoder
5. Elias Yoder (1808-1884) (YR12531)
6. Barbara Yoder (1836-1920) (YR125313) m. Samuel Yoder
7. Samuel S. Yoder (1867-1957) (YR235646/YR1253136)
8. Alvin Ward Yoder (1894-1977)
9. Dan Samuel Yoder (1937- )
10. Deanne Yoder (1971- )

#3
1. Christian Yoder (c1695-c1775) (YR2)
2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
3. Yost Yoder (1765-1792) (YR236)
4. Barbara Yoder (????-????) (YR2361) m. Daniel Yoder
5. Elias Yoder (1808-1884) (YR12531/YR23611)
6. Barbara Yoder (1836-1920) (YR125313/YR236113))
7. Samuel S. Yoder (1867-1957) (YR235646/YR1253136/YR2361136)
8. Alvin Ward Yoder (1894-1977)
9. Dan Samuel Yoder (1937- )
10. Deanne Yoder (1971- )

#4
1. Christian Yoder (c1695-c1775) (YR2)
2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (1726-1816) (YR23)
3. Barbara Yoder (1756-????) (YR232) m.Christian D. Troyer
4. David C. Troyer (1784-1871)
5. Rachel Troyer (1809-1897) m. Elias Yoder
6. Barbara Yoder (1836-1920) (YR125313/YR236113)) m. Samuel
Yoder
7. Samuel S. Yoder (1867-1957) (YR235646/YR1253136/YR2361136)
8. Alvin Ward Yoder (1894-1977)
9. Dan Samuel Yoder (1937- )
10. Deanne Yoder (1971- ) m. Doug Handlong

I guess I was meant to be a Yoder!
Deanne Yoder Handlong

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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:33 1998
Subject: YODER Roll Call
From: lauriedyche@juno.com (Laurie K Dyche)

>> 1) If you have not yet answered the Yoder "Roll Call",please do so
>and>> let others know what line you represent.
>
Laurie Watts Dyche--3 Yoder lines:
lauriedyche@juno.com

#1:
> 1. Christian Yoder (c1699-?)
> 2. Schweitzer Christian Yoder (1728-1815)
> 3. Christian Yoder (Oct 1758-29 Apr 1838) m.Magdalena Troyer
> 4. Abraham Yoder (20 Dec 1782--?) m. Christine Kauffman
> 5. Jacob A. Yoder (1807-?) m. Rachel Yoder
> 6. Levi John Yoder (6 Feb 1844-24 Jan 1934) m. Mary Mishler
> 7. William Yoder (7 Feb 1876--20 July 1967) m. Zua Skeels
> 8. Bessie Arnetta Yoder (17 Mar 1904-9 Feb 1992) m.
Worth Watts
> 9. Curtiss Dean Watts (21 Oct 1940- ) m. Patricia
Darlene White
> 10. Laurie Kathleen Watts (25 June 1925- )l m.
Russell Dyche
> 11. Daniel Scott Dyche (24 June 1984-- )
> 11. David Curtiss Dyche (17 Mar 1986-- )
> 11. Amy Kathleen Dyche (25 Dec 1989-- )

#2:
1. Jacob Yoder (1695--1742)
2. Christian Yoder (1722--1775) m. Barbara Beiler
3. Jacob Yoder (1745--1827) m. Veronica Hochstetler
4. John Yoder (31 May 1782--31 Jan 1867) m. Mary Sipe
5. Rachel Yoder (8 Apr 1811--21 Apr 1882) m. Jacob A. Yoder
generation 6 above continues this line

#3: Same as #2 through generation 2
3. Catherine Yoder (1765--?) m. Jacob Berkey
4. Susanna Berkey (1790--?) m. Peter Mishler
5. Daniel Mishler (16 Aug 1816--?) m. Leah Miller
6. Mary Mishler (c1897--June 1912) m. Levi John Yoder
generation 7 on #1 continues this line

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>From - Sat Apr 11 13:28:48 1998
From: danakaye@webtv.net (kaye osterman)
Subject: Christian and Jacob Yoder Lines

I am resending this as a forwarded letter because I replied with the
wrong subject information and it was probably deleted. Sorry to fill
your mail box twice. Kaye Osterman
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From: danakaye@webtv.net (kaye osterman)
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

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>From - Sat Apr 11 16:41:26 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Corrections to YNL 31

As usual, there are mistakes in the text of the YNL...First off..The
"CORRECTION" on page two which says the "Rosanna of the Amish" desendant
should be scratched from the paragraph in YNL 30 about "YR128"...it
should really have said the "YR127" paragraph.

Secondly, in the Wayne Co. article...first the Henry Yoder on the map
who was marked as "YR2613"--couldn't have been...he stayed longer in
Pennyslvania. And then the John Yoder who died in 1855 is labeled in the
paragraph on page 4 as (YR1621)...it was really (YRB11)..

Sorry...

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>From - Sat Apr 11 16:41:27 1998
From: Gary Anderson <gandrsn@ocean.otr.usm.edu>
Subject: Re: Yoder Listserver Membership

Greetings cousins,

I have been a subscriber for some time but don't think I have ever
submitted my line:

**Hans (John) YODER (ca. 1680 - ca. 1753)

**Casper (Sr) YODER (ca. 1720 - bef. 1781)

**Annie (Nancy) YODER (1744 - 1822)

**Nancy (Anna) Yoder KOLB (1783 - 1862)

**Magdalena (Lena) Kolb NICE (1806 - 1882)

**Susan Nice ALDERFER (1838 - 1925)

**Peter Alderfer METZ (1867 - 1935)

**Emma Pearl Johnson METZ (1902 - 1997)

**Durell ANDERSON (1923 - 1985)

**Gary ANDERSON (1948 - )

Would love to correspond with relatives from southeastern PA.

Best wishes for a Happy Easter!

Gary
--

Gary Anderson (mailto:gandrsn@otr.st.usm.edu)
http://tidepool.st.usm.edu/gandrsn/gandrsn.html

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>From - Sat Apr 11 16:41:29 1998
From: BEberh5501 <BEberh5501@aol.com>
Subject: My Yoder's

Jacob Yoder (1735- ) married Maria Keim
Mary(Maria) Yoder ( ) married John Nicholas Mensch
Elizabeth Mensch ( 1807-1888) married Jacob Eberhart
Levi Eberhart (1829-1896)
John C Eberhart (1859-1938)
Edward M Eberhart (1896-1969)
Edward M Eberhart Jr.
Barbara Eberhart (me)

As you can see my Yoder line is not very long. But I still do have Yoder
blood and love the Yoder page. They sure do a terrific job.
Barb

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>From - Sat Apr 11 20:34:54 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: "New" Information from Northumberland Co

Thanks to Dick Yoder of Bechtelsville, deep at work on his upcoming
book on the Yoder Homesteads and land transcations of the Oley Yoder
line, we have some "new" data on the Yoder land transaction in
Northumberland County...these will be added to the Northumberland
County records in our archives during a futhure update...

Chris Yoder
********************************************************************
Northumberland County Courthouse basement, Sunbury, Pa
Collected by Richard H. Yoder of Bechtelsville, Pa -March 1998

I-207 23 May 1796 Judah Roberts of Lower Milford to Melchior
Yoder of Limerick twp, Montgomery Co. (M) 2 tracks of land at
Middlecreek, Northumberland Co. 125 3/17 acres; 150 7/8 acres
--------------------------------------------------
N-181 15 Nov 1806 Melchior Yotter & wife Anna of Centre twp,
Northumberland Co.. (M) to Jacob Schrock of Centre Twp.,
Northumberland Co. Containing 52 A 120 per-
it being part of pat granted to Melchior date 15 Sept. 1806-
Pat Book #59 page 68.
--------------------------------------------------
NN-227 25 Mar 1857 Dennis Bouy & wife to Samuel Yoder
of White Deer Twp, Union Co. 13 acres 85 per (OY413)
--------------------------------------------------
U-242 11 Apr 1815 Robert Corrigan of Turbott Twp to
Jacob Yoder of White Hall Twp,
Lehigh Co. 151 acre +/- West Branch of Susquehanna (see OH146)
--------------------------------------------------
U-511 27 Apr 1818 James McAffee of Muney Creek, Lycoming Co
and Jacob Yoder (?OY413) and Martin Preisz (?) both of
Turbot Twp- Executors of Fred Grimes
-------------------------------------------------
V-27 John Bero of Turbot Twp, Northumberland to Jacob
Yoder of Rockland Twp, Berks Co, (?OY45) bought his horses,
and all stock and goods--this is a bill of sale.
-------------------------------------------------
X-48 4 June 1821 Abraham Peter & wife Susanna, Solomon
Peter & wife Margaret, Martin Yoder & wife Susanna of Oley Twp.
(OH1113) and George Breyfogel & wife Esther and George Weiser
of Sunbury--lot in Sunbury.
-------------------------------------------------
D848-49 2 April 1860 Samuel Yoder of White Deer ,
Union Co., & wife Esther (OY413) to Daniel Yoder, Chillesquague
Twp, Northumberland 13 acres 85 perch,
part of a larger tract of Dennis Bouy.
--------------------------------------------------

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>From - Sat Apr 11 20:35:02 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: YNL 31 Posted to Homepage FTP Directory

Visit the April Edition at our FTP directory:

ftp://ftp.genealogy.org/pub/genealogy/surnames/YODER/YNL/

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>From - Sat Apr 11 20:36:19 1998
From: Richard Yoder <ryoder@mercy.org>
Subject: Re: YODER LISTERVER MEMBERSHIP

ChrisYoder wrote:

> Membership in the Yoder Listserver has reached 136 subscribers!!!
>
> 1) If you have not yet answered the Yoder "Roll Call",please do so and
> let others know what line you represent. Sample of format at follows:
>

OK, Chris. Thanks for the welcome into the club. This isn't exactly the
short form but it's apparently who I am, Yoder-wise. I've edited away the
non-Yoder ancestry and wives, so it's just a name trace. I tried to leave
the wives in but it became too confusing for introductory e-mail. Note,
however, that Samuel S Yoder of the YR1 line married Elizabeth Yoder of the
YR2 line, so I have them both. ( The numbers refer to RINs used in the PAF
software files.)

Dick

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>From - Sat Apr 11 20:36:25 1998
From: ekjohnson@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Yoder: Union co

With additional membership on the Yoder list, I wonder if any of you
are researching Union co, PA. I would like to be contacted directly if
you are--especially if Daniel (OY41) 1758-1822 / Samuel )Y413
1785-1870 are in your files.
Dick Yoder, thanks for the Northumberland co land transactions.. Did
the records contain actual signatures?

Estella Johnson in upstate NY, near Vermont
ekjohnson@worldnet.att.net

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>From - Sun Apr 12 13:13:07 1998
From: "C Wallace" <cwallace@gwtc.net>
Subject: Yoder Roll Call

Here's my lines -

1st Line --------

1. ____ Yoder YR1
2. Christian Yoder YR12 (c1722-Jan 1771) m. Barbara (c1723-1781)
3. Joseph Yoder YR127 (1757-1833) m. Elizabeth Jutzi (c 1759)
4.John Yoder YR1273 (Sep 9, 1786-Dec 17, 1861) m. Susanna Stutzman =
(Jul 14, 1796-
1837)
5. Samuel S. Yoder YR12732 (Mar 3, 1816-Sep 9-12, 1905) m. =
Elizabeth Yoder YR25125=20
(Sep 12, 1815-Feb 7, 1888)
6. Samuel P. Yoder YR127327 (Apr 5, 1855-Jun 17, 1923) m2. =
Lucinda Wallace (Aug 14,=20
1867-Aug 6, 1951)
7. Jay Arnold Yoder YR1273278 (Sep 5, 1892 - Jun 13, 1976) =
m. Anna Mae=20
Hengstenberg (May 17,1904-May 17, 1954)
8. Chester Arnold Yoder (May 6, 1931- ) m. Zora Adela =
Anderson (Nov 3, 1933 - )
9. Cheryl Ann Yoder (Sep 17, 1959- ) m. Kenneth William =
Wallace (Apr 29, 1957 - )

2nd Line -----

See #5 above

1. Christian Yoder YR2 ( -Nov 1775) m. __________
2. John Yoder YR25 (b 1732-Jul 2, 1813) m Anna (Mast?)
3. John Yoder YR251 (c1754-1842/43) m. Barbara Reichenbach (c1755- =
)
4. Jacob Yoder YR2512 (c1779-1852) m. Mary Keim ( =
-1828)
5. Elizabeth Yoder YR25125 (Sep 12, 1815-Feb 7,1888) m. Samuel =
S. Yoder YR12732

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>From - Sun Apr 12 21:51:34 1998
From: KEY4511 <KEY4511@aol.com>
Subject: Re: My Yoder line

I think I did this some time ago, but here goes again. Before I do, I want to
say it is great to hear from a few more descendants of Hans Joder of Great
Swamp - the Mennonite line. Here is my line. Keith Yoder.

Hans Joder of Great Swamp (YB)
John Yoder (YB1)
Abraham Yoder (1750-1827) YB13
Peter Yoder (1793-1867) YB137
Henry B. Yoder (1829-1899) YB1378
Peter B. Yoder (1855-1943) YB 13781
David Abraham Yoder (D.A.) (1883-1980) YB137812
Lowell L. Yoder (1912-1989 YB1378122
Keith E. Yoder (1936-) YB13781221

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>From - Mon Apr 13 20:58:59 1998
From: lyoder@cafes.net (Lee Yoder)
Subject: Yoder Roll Call

I sent this Saturday but must have done something wrong as I never saw it
on the list so try again
>
>I have two lines
>
>Grandfather Line
>
>1.Yost Yoder (YB)
> 2. Christian Yoder (1761- ) (YRB1)
> 3. John Yoder (1785-1855) (YRB11)
> 4. Christian K. Yoder (1829-1911) (YRB114)
> 5. Menno S. Yoder (1873-1942) (YRB114a)
> 6. Dr. Lee W. Yoder (1912-1990)
> 7. Lee O. Yoder (1939-
>
>
>Grandmother's Line
>
>1. Yost Yoder (YB)
> 2. Christian Yoder (1761- ) (YRB1)
> 3. David Yoder (1801-1852) (YRB18)
> 4. John B. Yoder (1825-1876) (YRB181)
> 5. Nancy Ellen Yoder (1844-1927) (YRB1811)
> 6. Katherine Fett (1875-1963)
> 7. Dr. Lee W. Yoder (1912-1990)
> 8. Lee O. Yoder (1939-
>
>
>Lee Yoder
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>From - Mon Apr 13 20:59:01 1998
From: ilse lieve ackerman <ila1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: YODER Roll Call

Dear cousins:

Here are my four lines. If anyone would like to exchange GEDCOM or family
tree maker files, let me know....

ilse

Christian Yoder 1761 -
John Yoder 1785 - 1855
Jacob Yoder 1812 - 1864
Simon Peter Yoder 1847 - 1926
John Harvey Yoder 1881 - 1980
Lauren Aquila Yoder 1912 -
Susan Jane Yoder 1945 -
Ilse Lieve Ackerman 1972 -

Magdalena Yoder 1761 - 1784
John Yoder 1785 - 1855
Jacob Yoder 1812 - 1864
Simon Peter Yoder 1847 - 1926
John Harvey Yoder 1881 - 1980
Lauren Aquila Yoder 1912 -
Susan Jane Yoder 1945 -
Ilse Lieve Ackerman 1972 -

John Yoder 1754 -
Christian Yoder 1784 - 1850
Simon Peter Yoder 1847 - 1926
John Harvey Yoder 1881 - 1980
Lauren Aquila Yoder 1912 -
Susan Jane Yoder 1945 -
Ilse Lieve Ackerman 1972 -

Elizabeth Yoder 1749 - 1791
Esther Hertzler 1788 - 1861
Simon Peter Yoder 1847 - 1926
John Harvey Yoder 1881 - 1980
Lauren Aquila Yoder 1912 -
Susan Jane Yoder 1945 -
Ilse Lieve Ackerman 1972 -

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>From - Mon Apr 13 21:32:23 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Amos Yoder of Darke Co, OH

Further Evidence of Links

Amos Yoder (1797-1878) who is buried in the Oakland Cemetery, Adams Twp.,
Darke Co, OH, has been one of our "missing links". We knew that he was
born in Pa, and that he married Mary Cain in Miami Co, Oh on 1/3/1841.
Thanks to Joe Bosserman, we learned a couple months ago that Amos had a
first wife named Rebecca _____ d. 6/3/1838 age 30, buried at the Sugar
Grove Cemetery, Miami Co., Oh.

For some time we have been looking at the Pennsylvania Yoders of
Tulpehocken Twp, Berks County who vanished right about at the time Yoders
started appearing in Miami County....

Amos is not a common Yoder name, particularly so pre-1850. In the 1830
Census there is an Amos, age 20-30 with a wife and single daughter under
5 years of age living in Tulpehocken Twp . Relooking at notes taken by
Dick Yoder of Bechtelsville many years ago...I just found the following:

"Elizabeth Yoder born 4/2/1830 bapt. 4/12/1830, parents Amos and Rebecca
Yotter" - Christ Lutheran Church, Tulpehocken (now Marion) Twp.

This is further evidence that the Miami Co Yoders moved there from
Tulpehocken Twp...the senior Yoders of whom in 1830 was named "Abraham",
age 60-70 years and his wife of the same age (possibly the missing
OH135?)

(See "AV" and "AN" in the unlink2.doc file)

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>From - Tue Apr 14 05:55:09 1998
From: "Bill and Yvette Woodward" <woodward@vcn.com>
Subject: YODER ROLL CALL

Here's my line--FINALLY!

1. Christian Yoder (c 1695-1775)
2. "Schweitzer" Christian Yoder (c 1726-1816)
3. Christian Yoder (1758-1838)
4. Solomon Yoder (1793-?)
5. Christian Yoder (1839-1900)
6. Jeremiah Winfield Yoder (1872-1962)
7. Alta Lois Yoder (1910-1994)
8. Carolyn Roth (1938-)
9. Yvette (Walrath) Woodward (1956-)

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>From - Tue Apr 14 17:42:32 1998
From: Karen Lint <jlint@erols.com>
Subject: Yoder Roll call

Because of all the newer members, I am resending my lines (5):

Line 1:
1. ? Yoder (YR1) b 1695 m Barbara ? "Widow Barbara Yoder"
2. Jacob Yoder (YR14) b 1726 m Anna Beiler (BY2)
3. Christian Yoder (YR146) b 1761 m Magdalena Hooley (HL131)
4. Magdalena Yoder (YR1463) b 1792 m Abraham Zook (ZK229)
5. John K. Zook (ZK2294) b 1820 m Veronica (KG636)
6. Magdalena Zook (ZK22943) b 1850 m John J. Kauffman (KF1155c)
7. Lydia Ann Kauffman (KF1155c4)b 1881 m Amos Charles Ogburn
8. Ray Edward Ogburn b 1905 m Vena Virginia Thompson
9. Howard Levi Ogburn b 1933 m Carolee Ann Liechty
10. Karen Sue Ogburn b 1960 m James William Lint

Line 2:
1. ? Yoder (YR1) b 1695 m Barbara ? "Widow Barbara Yoder"
2. Anna Yoder (YR15)b 1728 m Samuel Koenig (KG)
3. Jacob King (KG6) b 1758 m Barbara Zug (ZK34)
4. Samuel King (KG63) b 1786 m Anna Yoder (YRB14)
5. Veronica King (KG636) b 1824 m John K. Zook (ZK2294)
6. Magdalena Zook (ZK22943) b 1850 m John J. Kauffman (KF1155c)
and from there on down the same as 7. - 10. above.

Line 3.:
1. ? Yoder (YR1) b 1695 m Barbara ? "Widow Barbara Yoder"
2. Veronica Yoder (YR19) b 1736 m John Hertzler (HZ1)
3. Veronica Hertzler (HZ17) b 1772 m Stephen Kurtz (KZB67)
4. Magdalena Kurtz (KZB677) b 1806 m Christian Kauffman (KF1155)
5. John J. Kauffman (KF1155c) m Magdalena Zook (ZK22943)
and for the last 4 generations, the same as above.

Line 4.:
1. Christian Yoder (YR2) b Abt 1700 m Barbara
2. John Yoder (YR25) b 1732 m Anna Mast (MS12)
3. Magdalena Yoder (YR252) b 1761 m Christian Yoder (YRB1)
4. Anna Yoder (YRB14) b 1792 m Samuel King (KG63)
5. Veronica King (KG66) b 1824 m John K. Zook (ZK2294)
6. Magdalena Zook (ZK22943) b 1850 m John J. Kauffman (KF1155c)
and from there down, as above.

Line 5.:
1. Yost Yoder (YRB)
2. Christian Yoder (YRB1) b 1761 m Magdalena Yoder (YR252)
3. Anna Yoder (YRB14) b 1792 m Samuel King (KG63)
4. Veronica King (KG636) b 1824 m John K. Zook (ZK2294)
5. Magdalena Zook (ZK22943) b 1850 m John J. Kauffman (KF1155c)
And then as above.

And perhaps seeing all this, you understand why I use the AAMG codes to
help us all keep my lines straight. In addition to having 5 Yoder
lines, I also have 3 Zug/Zook lines and 3 Kurtz lines. And I have two
Christian Yoders born the same year (1761)!!! (YR146 and YRB1) (and two
Anna Yoders who each married Samuel Koenig/Kings.

Karen Lint
jlint@erols.com

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>From - Tue Apr 14 23:02:16 1998
From: AAdrianson <AAdrianson@aol.com>
Subject: Yoder Roll Call

Here is my line,

YR2 - Christian Yoder (c1700-1775)
YR23 - Christian "Schweitzer" Yoder (1728-1816)
YR235 - David Yoder (1763- ? )
YR2354 - Joshua Yoder (1792-1857)
YR23544 - Christian J. Yoder (1824-1881)
YR235446 - Moses C. Yoder (1856-1883)
- Cora Ellen Yoder (1881-1967)
- Russell LeRoy Harper (1904-1984)
- Barbara Jean Harper (1937-
- Alan Adrianson (1962-

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>From - Tue Apr 14 23:23:22 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Maria Youter of Wayne Co and Freeport,Ill

From: pbently@concentric.net (Larry Bentley)
Subject: Entry to Guestbook

You have a new entry in your guestbook:

------------------------------------------------------
Looking for Mifs Maria yutter, born 1-19-1827; Wayne county, Ohio
married to Christian Clay. We have other info. we do not know parents
etc.
Larry Bentley <pbently@concentric.net>
Lindon, UT USA - Monday, April 13, 1998 at 16:33:12 (PDT)
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>From - Tue Apr 14 23:23:21 1998
From: ChrisYoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Amos Yoder of Darke Co, OH

Dave Petersen wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
>
> just wanted to let you know that i was able to find and purchase a copy of
> the Somerset book by the historical society in 1980 that is called "mongst
> the hills of Somerset"
> lot of yoder references. It just came today, it'll take awile to digest it
> all.
>
> dave
>

I may have seen it at some point...we have a file in the archives of
Somerset Co Yoders in cemeterys...I'm curious what added dat your book
may offer...let me know when you've digested it.

Chris

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>From - Wed Apr 15 05:55:54 1998
From: "Nich L King" <nichlk@goshen.edu>
Subject: My Yoders

Dear cousins,
From what I can tell, I am related to YR2 (Christian YODER) once and YR1
(_______ YODER) three times. My fiancee is related to the two brothers
through at least 20 distinctly different lines. Her geneology looks more
like a family web than a tree. I am interested in whether or not others
have incountered that much relation to the Yoder brothers. I will list one
line for myself and my fiancee. I will list the ones that stay YODER the
longest (neither of us are YODERs).

Here is mine:
1. YR2 Christian Yoder (c.1700-1775) m. Barbara ______
2. YR23 Christian Yoder (10/1728-11/20/1816) m. Barbara Hooley
3. YR236 Yost Yoder m. Magdalena Rickenbach
4. Yost Yoder m. Elizabeth Stutzman
5. Anna Yoder m. Joseph D. Miller (3rd cousins)
6. Anna Catherine Miller m. John J.S. Miller
7. George Monroe Miller m. Anna Garber
8. Vernon Miller m. Rosa Anna Metzler
9. Nora Miller m. Elmer D. King Jr.
10. Thomas D. King m. Eve A. Courtland
11. Nicholas L. King

Here is my fiancee's
1. YR2 Christian Yoder (c.1700-1775) m. Barbara ______
2. YR25 John Yoder (1732-7/2/1813) m. Anna Mast
3. YR253 Jacob Yoder m. Catherine Blank
4. Jacob Yoder m. Anna Kauffman
5. John N. Yoder m. Jemima Zook
6. Joseph Z. Yoder m. Sarah A. Hartzler (2nd cousins)
7. Elizabeth B. Yoder m. Samuel D. Hartzler (2nd
cousins)
8. Lena Hartzler m. Bennett Byler (3rd cousins)
9. Jason Byler m. Matilda Bontrager
10. Annie E. Byler

If anyone is interested in any of the other 20+ lines we have to these two
brothers, let me know and I will contact you. Chances are, either my
fiancee or I am related to everyone on this list within 4-5 generations (of
course I guess we are all related about that closely)!

Auf wiederschreiben,
Nicholas L. King

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>From - Wed Apr 15 05:55:57 1998
From: Warren Yoder <wyoder@prodigy.net>
Subject: Yoder Roll Call

Here's my (Warren Harold Yoder) list:

YR14 "Strong" Jacob Yoder (1726-1790)m.Anna Beiler
YR146 Christian "Dick Christel" Yoder (1761 - 12-27-1847)
m.Magdalena Hooley
YR1461 Daniel "Big Dan" Yoder (1789 - 5-27-1843) m. Nancy King Smucker
YR14611 John "Red John" Yoder (6-28-1815 - 3-16-1895) m. Anna Zook
YR14611a Daniel F. Yoder (11-27-1852 - 2-15-40) m. Frannie D. Troyer
YR14611a6 Harvey Blaine Yoder (5-29-1886 - 7-11-1973)
m. Leta Hilda Dashner
YR14611a64 Warren Harding Yoder (7-5-1920 - ) m. Betty Jo Fisher
YR14611a641 Warren Harold Yoder (11-19-1942 - ) m. Marie Gynell Shore
YR14611a6412 Douglas Warren Yoder (10-16-1965 - )
m. Yvette Conrad
YR14611a64121 Matthew Douglas Yoder (4-25-1989 - )
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>From - Wed Apr 15 22:03:40 1998
From: "Max L. Dinges" <blumax1@ibm.net>
Subject: Roll Call

My line is as follows:
1 Hans Yoder OH
2 John OH 1
3 Samuel OH 13
4 Peter OH 133
5 David OH 1333 or Jreamiah OH 1334 I haven't put it
definitely yet
6 Elias OH 133?6 (abt 1826- abt 1885)
7 Sinary Oh133?61 (1860- 1936)
8 Mary Kathrine mOH 133?612 (1888-1934)
9 Ernest Dinges OH 133?6113 (1906- 1982)

10 Max Dinges OH 133?61131 (
1932- )

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>From - Thu Apr 16 05:53:10 1998
From: Patsy "S." Becker <beckep@som-uky.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for Diaries of CZ Yoder

Hi Sam,Are you aware of the YODER NEWSLETTER ONLINE. It is great, my
grandmother was a YODER and they have helped me although my
grandmother is not of the Amish line. Here is the address if you don't already
have it. (this is for the YODER NEWSLETTER ARCHIVES)
http://www.genealogy.org/~yoder/
Have fun and good luck in your search
my e-mail is beckep@som-uky.campus.mci.net
Pat Becker

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>From - Thu Apr 16 22:45:48 1998
From: mburley <mburley@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Roll call

Hello all,

This is the first time I,ve posted my Yoder ancestry - I,ve seen
several roll calls and thought it was about time to do something about
it. I,m also working on Conrad, Ernst, Headings, Hooley, Hostetler,
King, Liechty, Mast, Miller, Plank, Roth, Troyer, Wenger, Zook and their
various permutations.

I live in Wilsonville, OR - not too many miles from Yoder, OR! I have
four ancestral lines in my Yoder genealogy as follows:

(1) Yoder (ca 1695-1742) m "widow" Barbara (ca 1698-?)
(2) Christian Yoder (ca 1722-1772) m Barbara Beiler (?) (ca 1723-1781)
(3) Elizabeth Yoder (ca 1749-1791) m Christian Hertzler (ca
1740-1817)
(4) Esther Hertzler (1788-1861) m Christian Yoder (1784-1850)
(5) Anna Yoder (1815-1887) m Jacob Yoder (1812-1864)
(6) Rachel Yoder (1834-1892) m Joseph Hooley (1829-1868)
(7) Menno Simon Hooley (1857-1934) m Francis "Fannie"
Hostetler (1857-1879)
(8) Anna Hooley (1880-1904) m Andrew Headings (1879-1959)
(9) Anna Headings (1904-1979) m Percy Conrad (1895-1972)
(10) Violet Conrad (1931-) m Marlin Burley (1926-1989)
(11) Michael Burley (1950-)

(2) Anna Yoder (1728) m Samuel Koenig (ca 1724-?)
(3) Jacob Koenig (1758-1822) m Barbara Zug (1762-?)
(4) Samuel King (1786-1847) m Anna Yoder (1792-1830)
(5) John King (1827-1887) m Rebecca Troyer (1829-1908)
(6) Lydia King (1856-1929) m Ezra Headings (1854- 1918)
(7) Andrew Headings (1879-1959) m Anna Hooley (1880-1904)
(8) Anna Headings (1904-1979) m Percy Conrad ( 1895-1972)
(9) Violet Conrad (1931-) m Marlin Burley (1926-1989)
(10) Michael Burley (1950-)

(4) Mary Koenig (1790-1866) m John Yoder (1785-1855)
(5) Jacob Yoder (1812-1864) m Anna Yoder (1815-1887)
(6) Rachel Yoder (1834-1892) m Joseph Hooley (1829-1868)
(7) Menno Simon Hooley (1857-1934) m Francis "Fannie" Hostetler
(1857-1942)
(8) Anna Hooley (1880-1904) m Andrew Headings (1879-1959)
(9) Anna Headings (1904-1979) m Percy Conrad (1895-1972)
(10) Violet Conrad (1931-) m Marlin Burley (1926-1989)
(11) Michael Burley (1950-)

(2) John Yoder (1732-1804) m Anna Berky [?] (ca 1740-?)
(3) Sarah Yoder (1776-1812) m Daniel Kauffman (1773-1853)
(4) Jemima Kauffman (1809-1884) m John Hooley (ca 1803-1858)
(5) Joseph Hooley (1829-1868) m Rachel Yoder (1834-1892)
(6) Menno Simon Hooley (1857-1934) m Francis "Fanny" Hostetler
(1857-1942)
(7) Anna Hooley (1880-1904) m Andrew Headings (1879-1959)
(8) Anna Headings (1904-1979) m Percy Conrad (1895-1972)
(9) Violet Conrad (1931-) m Marlin Burley (1926-1989)
(10) Michael Burley (1950-)

Mike Burley

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